No Demo Reel

I was wondering about the 'crap operator thing too' - as instructing the op is part of your DP job - now I get it you are shooting with 1930s technology

I think your school is doing you a great disservice shooting on film

The one place that shooting digital is an absolute winner is during the learning process due to the instant playback

Id demand to shoot digital - or ask for you money back

DSLR anything (its not like the final output really matters - the projects are just to learn)

If you are at school now Id guess that 98% of all projects will be shot on digital by the time you are working anyway

IMO

SamMM
 
Without being able to see the footage while being shot without a monitor, its not that easy. And most of the time these people are camera operators for the first time. They don't have that much experience like some other people. Give it a break. I just cant use the footage. If I saw how they were operating on set, then it would be a whole different story. But, no one can until we get the film back from the lab.

How do you think DPs did it before we even had a video split off the eyepiece of a film camera?

We were trusted that we were shooting, lighting , exposing, operating and acheiving useable footage...because we proved we could.

Thats how we got hired as DPs.

Whatever...shoot your own reel to the best of your ability... and you will be golden.
 
DDirector, what kind of school do you go to...?

I am graduating in May from a school with a film program right in the heart of DFW that you've never heard of. We have very little equipment and congested facilities, no money and no real positive outlook for the program. However, I've had a thousand opportunities to direct the photography of school projects - from simple Directing Workshop one-scene shorts to features - and I've made the most of it. But most of these projects are outside of class - I offered my services to all of the film students and eventually built up a reel and a resume by just shooting, shooting, shooting...No one ever told me I couldn't operate or couldn't do what I wanted.

I have one class this semester that is basically my capstone course. In it, I am truly the Director of Photography because we have an Operator. But we aren't shooting on film - it's up in the air if we will be shooting on the Epic, the Alexa, or RED One - because there's just no real benefit to that format as students or as professionals. It doesn't mean I haven't shot film - and in all of those cases, I had an Operator I had to instruct - but there's just no point.

My point is - I sincerely question your school's decisions here. It sounds like it's run by a lot of crotchety film hold-outs. I completely agree with Sam that shooting digital is more conducive for learning than film.

But I also contend that your school should NOT dictate what, when, and how you shoot. Get out there and shoot. No one can tell you what to do...
 
I'm in Mississauga and can possibly come out on a weekend to help out as well...if you need a B-cam or a wannabe actor.
 
Send me PM and let's connect, same with anyone in Mississauga or general area.

Good films aren't made alone and I learned that a long time ago.

:D
 
Yes I know you did, thanks I got your email. My last post was Phil... I'm open to working with anyone in the area who is serious about film.

Cheers all...
 
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