Newman's announcement on new Cineform feature for 24p/25p extract from HDMI or HDSDI

Emanuel

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David Newman said:
Emanuel said:
...(for) David (Newman), will that HDMI port (at this new $1,099 toy) any solution coming from yours? I'd buy it and I will, when available!
You will be able to buy that solution from us in a few weeks (if you don't already have our software as it is a free upgrade.)

This has been coming off topic from here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=54731&page=20

agwah said:
Emanuel said:
As far as the (potential) laptop solution concerns, can we call it so? That is, will there be any HDMI card for the task during this year or around?

would this adapter
http://www.mobl.com/expansion/produc...ion/index.html

and this card
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/pro...sity/software/

make it possible to record to a mac book pro from the hdmi if you used cineform

will the cineforms final datarate be small enough to use one of the remaining storage solutions, the internal drive, a firewire or ethernet, or would one need to find some kind of divider for the expressport

Now on topic :)
 
We have been doing 60i to 24p extraction from HDSDI (using AJA Xena cards) for a very long time now, but yes we have added Intensity HDMI capture support to our whole product line for those more price sensitive. This will be more official in a few weeks.
 
That's great news. I need to ask though--what are the chances of an HDMI or SDI Express Card solution?

I'm stil hoping against hope for the laptop thing to happen.
 
We aren't the hardware guys, but is someone offers that hardware we will provide the capture and compression solution. Technology HDMI via ExpressCard would be easy. We have suggested that to all the video hardware companies we know.
 
Here is another real (affordable) announcement but on the hardware subject (and for within six months!):

LINK
 
the links stopped working , so here they are again

for a laptop
http://www.mobl.com/expansion/products/expresscard_expansion/index.html

the intensity card
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

and a rumor
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?p=573725&postcount=5

the question that has been elaborated on elsewhere is if cameras like the inexpensive 24p canon hv20
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=177&modelid=14869
would process the image a lot before sending it to the hdmi out or if we get uncompressed or close to uncompressed to have a clean source for cineform to work with

here is same discussion for sony
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=79534&page=2
 
agwah,

That laptop expansion adds PCI slots not the needed PCI-e slot. Although someting similar would be cool.
 
thanks david,

ideas anyone

or are we just waiting for a hardware manufacturer to make the complete solution for the expresscard slot, if that where to happen, would cineform be ready both for mac and pc?
 
Emanuel,

We are enquired about that HDSDI laptop unit months ago, no reply. So it is a long way from reality it seems.
 
looking for real solutions

looking for real solutions

David Newman said:
Emanuel,

We are enquired about that HDSDI laptop unit months ago, no reply. So it is a long way from reality it seems.
David,

I can imagine...

Try to go to that thread at dvinfo.net and put in contact with that romanian engineer. If he is so real than you are :), I'll be there and we won't be alone indeed! :thumbsup:
 
a portable solution that can function for a couple of hours without any powercables would be awesome

if it is a box you wear on your body, great, but a cable to a battery powered laptop is good to

so a firestore like device, that extracts 24p and compresses from hdmi signal to cineform, and if you could change batteries and hard drives on it, you are set
 
CineForm upgrades for Blackmagic Intensity and Sony V1 + more

CineForm upgrades for Blackmagic Intensity and Sony V1 + more

The entire CineForm product line-up has just been upgraded. The many new features include support for capture via the Black Magic Intensity card (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/) within HDLink (currently a beta feature.) This includes pulldown extraction from 1080p24 cameras like the Sony V1, allowing effects shooters to bypass MPEG camera compression and go directly to 4:2:2 CineForm files. For those with Intensity cards with would like your feedback (and yes we are adding live preview.) Read more details here http://www.cineform.com/products/TechNotes/Blackmagic/Intensity.htm

Other major upgrade include features designed for the Sony HVR-V1 and the HVR-DR60 drive unit. Batch converting files from the DR60 and P2 media is now much easier.

More info at www.cineform.com
 
great

quote: "Another intriguing fact about HDMI is that during live recording the HDMI output signal bypasses the camera's internal HDV (or AVCHD) recording format."

can't wait for somebody to test this and show the results

do you have any test files david
 
agwah said:
great

quote: "Another intriguing fact about HDMI is that during live recording the HDMI output signal bypasses the camera's internal HDV (or AVCHD) recording format."

can't wait for somebody to test this and show the results

do you have any test files david
Same feeling here.

No matters the content, only the quality of the stream.

David,

What's your bet on the HV20 HDMI option?

Good 4:2:2 files quality?

Or can a heavily processed signal be a hassle?

Some hints over this discussion here:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=463&page=2
...and next pages.
 
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