Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

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ok. I've been using Vegas 4.0 since it came out. I'm 100% self taught. There are things in vegas that I learn almost everyday.

For the most part I do just STRAIGHT editing. Meaning I just make simple cuts and fades I don't use hardly any filters, or fx. Not to any major extent anyway.

in fact here is a sample of my work.

http://creativealloy.com/vid/creative-alloy01.wmv


Now then. you can see I have a basic understanding. And on that note, I ask what may be the dumbest question ever...

What's the trimmer tool do?

I've opened clips in it before scrolled thru it.. clicked things.. but how is that any easier than just dragging the edge of your clip down to the frame you want, directly on the timeline?

for example...

All I ever do is drop a clip on the timeline and quickly make a quick slice where I think I want to start, I delete the left side of the slice, and then I drag the left edge to the left or to the right and basically fine tune the beginning of the clip. When I'm satisfied with that, I move to where I think the clip should end and make another slice and delete the right side of the sclice and drag the right edge to the left or right until I'm satisfied with the ending of the clip.

Now then, that usually goes pretty quick. Much quicker than it was for me to explain.

So how is the trimmer any easier than that? What does the trimmer do?
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

I am working in the very same way. Just started editing my feature.
Dont use Trimmer at all. When I got my roungh cut I am going to ask more questions on this forum (normalizing audio, color correction etc). THere are tons of great guys here and I have learned a lot here. Keep asking and you will get an answer.
Enjoy Vegas!
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

That's kind of funny. I've been using Vegas for a long time and I've never used the trimmer feature either.
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

I've been using Vegas for around six months now, and I never use trimmer either. I have taken great pains to try to experience everything that Vegas can do, even if I don't have any immediate plans to use it (e.g., 3D compositing, etc). I did the same with trimmer, but found myself thinking isn't this more trouble than its worth?
 
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I personally use the trimmer every time I edit. I guess it just depends on your workflow. The use of the trimmer is that if you have really long clips you can easily just pick parts of the clip that you want and not worry about finding the exact spot on the timeline. So I drag the clip into the trimmer. Find my in and out points and then drag it onto the timeline. This allows me to use different parts of the clip allready trimmed and easy to work with on the timeline. But again, different strokes for different folks.
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

When you use the trimmer, does it become more "destructive"? Meaning: if a trimmed clip is on the timeline and you stretch it, does the footage beyond the trimmed end reappear?

Just an idle question...

Dan
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

[quote author=GenJerDan link=board=Vegas;num=1108357896;start=0#5 date=02/14/05 at 05:41:01]When you use the trimmer, does it become more "destructive"?  Meaning: if a trimmed clip is on the timeline and you stretch it, does the footage beyond the trimmed end reappear?

Just an idle question...

Dan[/quote]

No, not more destructive. It acts like any other clip, and you can lengthen or shorten it at will.
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

Yeah, that's what I figured. (Obvioudly, never tried).

I'll probably start rendering clips as I edit them so I can put them on the timeline "pre-cut" so I don't have to remember how to stretch them and such. I always guess wrong. ;)

Dan
 
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[quote author=scharky link=board=Vegas;num=1108357896;start=0#4 date=02/14/05 at 04:40:25]I personally use the trimmer every time I edit. I guess it just depends on your workflow. The use of the trimmer is that if you have really long clips you can easily just pick parts of the clip that you want and not worry about finding the exact spot on the timeline. So I drag the clip into the trimmer. Find my in and out points and then drag it onto the timeline. This allows me to use different parts of the clip allready trimmed and easy to work with on the timeline. But again, different strokes for different folks.[/quote]


The tapes that my clients give me are about an hour long, with like 2 or 3 camera stops. So for the most part, I drag onto the time line slice and trim on the fly on the timeline.

It sounds like the exact same process just without dragging it into trimmer first, then dragging it back onto the timeline.

Just out of curiosity, did you learn editing in vegas? My assumption would be that people that learn on vegas do it the way I do it since I'm self taught only in vegas, and the people that learned on other systems or years ago use the trimmer.

I guess it doesn't matter, I was just curious... just making chit chat. :)
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

I don't use the trimmer either. It's all about the workflow, I guess. I'm going to make a point to use it, just to see if it improves my editing speed. Plus, After Effects uses a trimmer--I think you pretty much have no choice. So I guess I have to get accustomed to a trimmer either way.

Funny...I use the trimmer on my electric razor all the time... ;)
 
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I admit I have never used it; I usually expand and contract the track on the fly. It works for me.
 
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I use the trimmer, like scharky does. If I have a long clip, I can use the parts I want from the trimmer, and leave the rest. (It saves time rather than repeatedly putting the same clip over and over on the timeline and collapsing it there.) It's also handy to only use the Video part of a clip and not the Audio. Another neat thing about using the trimmer.
 
Re: Newbie question.. I mean SUPER newbie question

You can add video or audio only by right-clicking the media and dragging it to the timeline. When you do, it gives you a little pop-up menu and you can choose video only or audio onlyl.
 
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