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This guy things by the end of the year:

Former broadcast industry executive Tore Nordahl recently published some predictions on the AVCHD format in the professional and broadcast space. He believes that AVC will replace HDV, and in the very near future. In a recent essay entitled "Will Panasonic lead the professional HD camcorder market with AVC in 2007?", Nordahl opens with the bold statement "HDV is in trouble."
"Panasonic never joined the "HDV club" choosing to tough it out with the HVX200 DVCPRO-HD P2 camcorder (with success) while developing its AVC technology. Panasonic's decision not to spend on HDV R&D will pay off big in 2007, when I expect to see several Panasonic AVC-based HD camcorders both for semi-pro and pro use."
Nordahl goes on to note that earlier this spring Sony and Panasonic announced the joint AVCHD H.264 format. With potentially double the encoding efficiency of HDV, he predicts that AVC can easily outperform HDV in the 20Mbps datarate arena.

Mentioning the HDR-SR1 and HDR-UX1 high-end Sony consumer model announcements, he predicts Panasonic professional model AVC announcements by October 2006.

Nordahl has stated "Panasonic is fully committed to AVC in the longer term for their entire HD camcorder range." and cites evidence from the latest National Association of Broadcasters convention:
"At NAB-2006, Panasonic announced their new AVC-Intra 50Mbps video payload compression in their yet to ship AJ-HPC2000 full size fully professional HD camcorder."
He predicts that AVCHD will make inroads very soon in the prosumer and professional space with flash memory-based camcorders, as well as models offering recording to Blu-ray and hard disk, stating:
"I expect Panasonic to announce a HVX200-type camcorder with AVCHD CODEC and mini-Blue-ray Disc recording, in addition to SecureDigital and/or P2 soon. Panasonic badly needs a semi-professional HD camcorder line-up by end of 2006, not to lose market share."

"Look for new semi-professional AVCHD models selling for as little as $3,000 from Panasonic."
So what do you make of all this? I'm personally inclined to opine that the rumors of HDV's death are greatly exaggerated, and that AVC is a long way from replacing anything in the competitive 1/3" imager market. Though I do see AVC making inroads in the consumer market, and in cameras under $1500. Canon's recent HDV announcements only serves to legitimize the format and cement it's usefulness for years to come. HDV is the new DV, and I believe that it's here to stay for several more years.
 
3K looks good, but for now we just sit and watch.
P2 is is very efficient for news gathering.
 
I dont think HDV was ever alive to be dying IMO. And as a former canon user, i dont think their new models are really progressing the business. Its something that bothered me about the XL's and a reason i skipped them and just held out for a True HD cam, even on DV, it was like , the XL has this amazing lens and options, and then it shoots on DV only.

AVC is going to bring life back to the consumer level, but him stating that an HVX200 replacement using AVC is coming? im not sure about that. THe AVC codec is not for professionals.
 
Well if theres an intra frame 50 Mbps AVC codec that could be great in 720P and possibly make for good 24p"n" 1080P
 
The DVCpro codcec doesnt suport true progresive in 1080 i dont think..., just interlace at the 1080 resolution... ( i n the sense that it turns progressive 1080P into a 1080i stream like the DVX) I thnk AVC will be built into HVX200"a" CAuse its just a software change, not hardware change to fiddle with.
 
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I would like to see the DVX100 with the AVCHD and 16:9. If only if I knew!!

This guy did predict that Sony would release two new avchd cams, but after these tow new HDV one yesterday,,,,,probably not.
 
The DVX WILL NEVER HAVE 16:9 chips. that would make it a new camera and about 1.000$ more expensive. Basically you want the new Canon.
 
We wouldnt be able to download a firmware upgrade to our current HVX's to add something like this?
 
i dunno man, a whoe new codec and operating system? that has to mech seemelssly with the curent Cameras firmware?
 
TimurCivan said:
The DVX WILL NEVER HAVE 16:9 chips. that would make it a new camera and about 1.000$ more expensive. Basically you want the new Canon.

Actually the XL2 created it's own brand of true 16:9 that everyone went gaga over.

-Nate
 
like i said, 1000$ more expensive and a different camera..... jk

But to tell you the truth, i rarely see Xl2 unfortunatly. They are good cameras, but i have yet to see one in use anywhere.
 
TimurCivan said:
The DVX WILL NEVER HAVE 16:9 chips. that would make it a new camera and about 1.000$ more expensive. Basically you want the new Canon.

Well if they came out with a AVCHD wouldn't it have 16:9 chips?
 
Yea but it wouldnt be a DVX an HD upgrade warrants a new line. Or the DVX nam would retire, and it would be a HVX100 or something.
 
i want them to make one, too, but nothing is on the horizon as far as we know. Hopefully Panasonic will surprise us.
 
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