New JVC cameras and gear

The low price shoulder mount cameras from JVC were their best attribute. They were/are great just because of theirs form factor. This new cameras are, well...they are nothing special.
 
The HM650 can send video back to the news station wirelessly. No live truck needed. I'd say that's a very big innovation.
 
KINOKS said:
The low price shoulder mount cameras from JVC were their best attribute. They were/are great just because of theirs form factor. This new cameras are, well...they are nothing special.
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It competes very well with the AC160 & EX1r, I think that is something special. 1920x1080 CMOS is more than their shoulder cameras have done, I think all those chips are 1280x720 CCD.

23x zoom, which beats the record of 22x on the AC130/160 & HPX250.

Plus mpeg2 & AVCHD!!! Any other camera doing that?
 
Looks like they're missing 1080p60 and VFR. Even so, I'm keen to see what the picture quality is like, especially if the Fujinon lens better than the lens on the AC130/160.
 
VFR is the biggest thing I'm wondering about. I'm guessing if it was included it'd be mentioned, along with 1080p60.

But the more I look at it, the more I like it.

TC in / out ~ don't know if this is through the AV jack, or what, but nice.
3 record triggers, side hand grip, top handle & one in the front like a ENG camera. NICE! Although I wish the white balance button was a toggle in the front too, but can't ask for everything in this form factor.

Also looking at the photos, it seems like you can reset the TC w/o going into the menu.
 
It seems to be quite workflow friendly. Encodes MP4, MOV, AVCHD and MXF. That's all editing applications covered! Also records to non-proprietary SD cards. Looks to be a solid event, news-gathering camera. Panasonic is facing quite a competition from Sony's FS100 event/doco/film-making package and on the other end, broadcasting from JVC.
 
SightfulProd said:
It seems to be quite workflow friendly. Encodes MP4, MOV, AVCHD and MXF. That's all editing applications covered! Also records to non-proprietary SD cards. Looks to be a solid event, news-gathering camera. Panasonic is facing quite a competition from Sony's FS100 event/doco/film-making package and on the other end, broadcasting from JVC.
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Are people really getting into the large-sensor world (FS100, AF100 etc.) much for event shooting? I would have thought deep-focus ENG type cameras and lenses would still be the better option by far for that sort of work (with the exclusion of the odd beauty shot here and there).
 
I helped shoot a wedding for a friend of mine, who owns an event video production business. I used my FS100, which is great in a dimly lit church. He liked the footage so much, he ended up buying his own FS100 recently. The stock zoom lens worked well for this shoot. It gave good DoF, but because it isn't a fast lens, it wasn't too difficult keeping the events in proper focus. i occasionally went to auto focus just to see what the camera would do.

But yeah, I would think a camera like this JVC would be a good camera for event shoots. I'd like to see how it performs in low light.
 
It will be really interesting to see the HM600 put up against Panasonic's AC130 & AC160.

The biggest differences I'm wondering about the JVC is if it can do VFR & 1080p60. If not, then the 160 owns those features along with a wider lens. While the HM600 owns a longer reach & slightly faster lens, as well as the multi-format recording XDCam / AVCHD & additionaly proxy recording in addition to full resolution & in the HM650 ftp built into the camera.

For any "backpack journalist," the HM650 seems to be in a class by itself right now.
 
the 600, at NAB, was only able to produce an image. no feature buttons worked (or they wouldn't let you touch the camera's features). Only time will tell if they follow though with all the features and they all work properly. They estimate delivery in October of this year, but I would be surprised if they meet that goal.
 
ELN614 said:
They estimate delivery in October of this year, but I would be surprised if they meet that goal.
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I'm not the biggest JVC junkie (actually there is a part of my soul that hates them because I used to own the horrible HD10U), but they seem to have a much better track record than say, Red, in making a promise & delivering.

There is alot that I like from what I've read, but one large thing I'm not trying to get my hopes up too much is the "F11 @ 2000lux" advertisement. If this is the case, these cameras could out perform any other 1/3" HD camera & possibly even the 1/2" EX1/3 chips too.
 
Just found this review video where Philip Johnston says this is the best performing 1/3" camera he has seen (there is a low light clip of the HM600 vs Canon XF305 & the JVC blows the Canon away)

http://vimeo.com/52061426

B&H still has this on pre-order (was supposed to be released about now), so if anyone knows when this will start shipping or anything about a delay, please share.
 
 
The HM600 looks really nice. Any idea on base ISO at 0db and high db noise performance? So far there has only been 1 credible review... Does anyone have any experience with this? Also any idea on lines resolved and dynamic range?
Also, I've noticed that the camera doesn't come with a charger (?)...can someone clarify this? Is it possible to charge the battery directly through the camera by connecting the ac supply or do I need the IDX charger?

From the HDwarrior review, it does look incredibly impressive at 6db. Wonder how it stacks up at 12-18db. Finally, though, a handheld with a good viewfinder.
 
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Also, I've noticed that the camera doesn't come with a charger (?)...can someone clarify this? Is it possible to charge the battery directly through the camera by connecting the ac supply or do I need the IDX charger?
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The battery can be charged on the camera with the supplied AC adapter. There is also an optional twin battery charger available. I think JVC expects most buyers to purchase a second battery and the charger.
 
Mike Warren said:
The battery can be charged on the camera with the supplied AC adapter. There is also an optional twin battery charger available. I think JVC expects most buyers to purchase a second battery and the charger.
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The batteries last 3 hours, right? (According to Craig) If that's the case I'll definitely at least 2.
Any idea on actual resolution/dynamic range and native ISO at 0db gain? Can't find any info on those. Where's Adam @provideocoalition and his super detailed reviews when you need him???
 
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