New iPhone 5S shoots 120fps

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dmitrizigany

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The new iPhone shoots video in 120 frames per second. Although only in 720p but nonetheless. Pretty amazing for a phone ;)
http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/
Seems to be a bunch of other nice improvements to the camera, too.

This got me wondering, will this lead to the expactation that professional cameras should too? Let's say you have a C100 and you're hired to shoot a video for someone, and they say, "what if we do this in like real slow motion" and you say "sorry, we have to rent another camera for that." And they go "what you mean, even my iPhone shoots 120fps, I thought you had a pro camera?".

Or will it become a gimmick now that anyone can do it and seen as a cheap effect whereas before it was a bit of a luxury?
 
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I thought the same thing. It's definitely a valid point.

If anyone brings up stuff like that I usually overwhelm them with tech-talk about control of focus/iris/shutter-speed/uncompressed audio & dynamic range and they quickly back off and sheepishly say "okay" even though in the back of my mind I'm sometimes like "you've got a good point, sir". The way I see it, most people now have the ability to shoot HD with their phones but they understand that there's a huge difference in what you can do with a real video camera vs. a cell phone even though they are both HD. I can totally see high frame rates becoming a "thing" now in these devices. It's gonna be like every FS700 video you saw when that camera came out times a million. Mark my words, every social network app is gonna soon be flooded with slow-mo shots of people smacking each other with water balloons and belly flopping in pools. I for one have built a business almost entirely upon using slow motion so I'm sure I'll be getting these sheep coming my way soon.

While news like this initially makes me go "oh crap" as I imagine scenarios like the one you mentioned, in the end I feel like as long as I know how to edit really well, I'll always be one step ahead because without editing, all you got is a crap load of footage.
 
That is adamantly a nice feature, but it pales in comparison with the ability to shoot in square mode. "perfect for sharing on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, wherever."

Simply amazing.
 
AHHHHHHGGGHHHH Slow motion is becoming like sharp nose tips everything else out of focus when the 5dMk2 came out. I'm tired of seeing super slow mo. I skip about 80% through vids that are just slow mo. Unless it's a hot chick bouncing on a bed, lets not film anymore needless slow motion.
 
dustylense said:
AHHHHHHGGGHHHH Slow motion is becoming like sharp nose tips everything else out of focus when the 5dMk2 came out. I'm tired of seeing super slow mo. I skip about 80% through vids that are just slow mo. Unless it's a hot chick bouncing on a bed, lets not film anymore needless slow motion.
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That's actually my current project: Hot Chicks bouncing on beds volumes 1-5. Still working on the script.
 
dmitrizigany said:
Or will it become a gimmick now that anyone can do it and seen as a cheap effect whereas before it was a bit of a luxury?
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I think with the reasonably affordability of the Epic slow mo has become pretty old hat and cliche already - the only thing that still impresses me is a good Phantom video, it will be a good while before 1000+ frames a second is the norm.
 
I can count on one hand the number of times I have had to do slo mo or overcranking in the past five years!

I don't get how everyone is hailing shallow DOF one minute but then raving about 4k fones with super slo mo the next!

or do I just smell marketing bullshit as usual?

3D super-slomo 4K anyone? :undecided
 
I'll take 720p120 over 4K ANY DAY. Even if it was nice and sharp 4K, but even more so if it is the crappy 4K I would expect from a phone.
 
Any sample footage yet?

I think that it's good that smartphone industry is pushing their cameras up to new levels. It certainly makes "real" camera manufacturers at alert state.
That has to be a good thing for every camera user
 
It's not... It's iPhone :)

anw...

I can't see why people hate so much vertical videos. They're bad I admit that but sometimes the shooting situation might force you to shoot vertical.
Maybe there is no room to move backwards to get the subject in frame... or something else. Even though...those are amateur videos. Why would one semi/pro cinematographer mock them..
 
I wonder how the iphone 120 fps will compare to the LX7 /zs30 / fz200 slowmo. Those cameras have limited function in "high speed mode". When recording starts, exposure, focus and zoom are locked. I love the feature though and on the Panasonic the quality is decent. I would agree though, It can be boring depending on what you shoot.
 
dmitrizigany said:
This got me wondering, will this lead to the expactation that professional cameras should too?
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Hopefully the pro cameras will start adding in 720p/120fps. We already have 1080 60p pretty standard in a lot more cameras now, so I'd imagine we'll see next year's batch of new cameras supporting higher frame rates. At least, they should. GoPro does 720/120 so why shouldn't some pro cameras and DSLRs even?

I wonder if we'll also start seeing 1440p in some of the new pro video cameras and higher end DSLRs or if they'll just jump to 4K in the coming years.
 
sebulban said:
I can't see why people hate so much vertical videos. They're bad I admit that but sometimes the shooting situation might force you to shoot vertical.
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You are a bad person. Go to your room and think about what you've done. :embarasse

...ok, seriously now, there really isn't any situation that benefits from vertical video since all the playback mediums are still horizontal. If you shoot it vertical, you're still going to either crop it or reframe it and lose 2/3 of your image and resolution!
 
dmitrizigany said:
The new iPhone shoots video in 120 frames per second. Although only in 720p but nonetheless. Pretty amazing for a phone ;)
http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/
Seems to be a bunch of other nice improvements to the camera, too.

This got me wondering, will this lead to the expactation that professional cameras should too? Let's say you have a C100 and you're hired to shoot a video for someone, and they say, "what if we do this in like real slow motion" and you say "sorry, we have to rent another camera for that." And they go "what you mean, even my iPhone shoots 120fps, I thought you had a pro camera?".

Or will it become a gimmick now that anyone can do it and seen as a cheap effect whereas before it was a bit of a luxury?
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I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Remember 5 or 6 years ago when the Flip video cameras were all the rage? I remember some people predicting the demise of professional cameras and today we probably have more pro camera options than ever before and Flip is dead. If you think super slo-mo is going to be the next big fad just pickup a GoPro Hero3 Black (the price is even marked down to $329).


-Andrew
 
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