New GoProHD3

alaskacameradude said:
Really? I've not had any of these 'issues' you mention with the FS100. Are you
an owner or just had a bad experience with a rental? The FS100 takes some work
for sure but no 'horrible' AVCHD artifacts that I have ever seen and with the right PP
highlights are fine.
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I used the FS700 on a recent shoot. As it's basically a souped up FS100 it should be pretty alike. Yes, horrible AVCHD artifacts (check this thread: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?294411-Strange-quot-blocks-quot-in-the-image-from-the-FS700 ) and ugly highlight handling (looks great most of the time but when it goes awry, it really goes bad). And fs700 has great cinegammas that the fs100 is missing so the highlight handling should be way worse on that.

Look, it's a great cam but the point is...you can nitpick any camera to hell. And that is what EOSHD likes to do. It's the nitpickers paradise for people who don't really shoot anything but flowers.

Claiming that those AVCHD artifacts doesn't exist is odd. Yeah, you may not see them while the image is moving but if you want to nitpick, there they are. Easy to spot in even moderate movement as the bitrate breaks up. Funnily I think the GoPro3 is probably better in this regard than the FS700 as it goes higher.

p.s I did really love the way FS700 handles shadows. They looked great.
 
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maarek said:
I used the FS700 on a recent shoot. As it's basically a souped up FS100 it should be pretty alike. Yes, horrible AVCHD artifacts (check this thread: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?294411-Strange-quot-blocks-quot-in-the-image-from-the-FS700 ) and ugly highlight handling (looks great most of the time but when it goes awry, it really goes bad). And fs700 has great cinegammas that the fs100 is missing so the highlight handling should be way worse on that.

Look, it's a great cam but the point is...you can nitpick any camera to hell. And that is what EOSHD likes to do. It's the nitpickers paradise for people who don't really shoot anything but flowers.

Claiming that those AVCHD artifacts doesn't exist is odd. Yeah, you may not see them while the image is moving but if you want to nitpick, there they are. Easy to spot in even moderate movement as the bitrate breaks up. Funnily I think the GoPro3 is probably better in this regard than the FS700 as it goes higher.

p.s I did really love the way FS700 handles shadows. They looked great.
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Well I'm out of my depth now as I own a FS100 and have never so much as touched a
FS700 (I wish!!). My understanding is the FS100 chip has WAY fewer pixels on it than
the FS700. Would this affect dynamic range? It seems like it might but I'm not sure.
Anyways highlight handling can be an issue but as an owner and not a one time user
I have been able test different PPs and G log ultimate has solved that issue for me.

I don't look at test video online as to AVHD artifacts as I have no idea what these shooters are
doing not to mention that compressing video for the web can cause....artifacts.
I haven't noticed them in my use of the camera.....maybe I should nitpick more
......either that or shoot flowers :). I know what kind of people you are talking
about even if I am not familiar with EOSHD.
 
maarek said:
Look, it's a great cam but the point is...you can nitpick any camera to hell. And that is what EOSHD likes to do. It's the nitpickers paradise for people who don't really shoot anything but flowers.
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As a former FS100 owner I don't disagree about the AVCHD artifacts and how the codec occasionally turns to absolute shite, but I'm not sure why you're picking on EOSHD. In his review of the FS100 he did mention the compression artifacts and highlight issues.

http://www.eoshd.com/content/7862/sony-nex-fs100-as-a-dslr-alternative-first-impressions
 
...can't remember all the way back to when this thread was actually talking about gopro's ( seems there's an active shrill conspiracy about eoshd ! ) if this article was linked, but....just read the article by david newman where he states that the hero2 with protunes is getting about 11 stops of dr, so that should give alot of hope for the black series hero3 to outperform the older model while using protunes.
 
well...it's a new lens so you can't even judge the stills from the hero2 and make an assumption. but I think the real question is CAN it resolve a 2.7k image ?
 
So the GoPro uses a new battery system? Does this mean my GoPro 2 batteries will not work with GoPro 3? I know they're only $20, but I had 3... if this is the case, is it changed because the battery is much better, or just to rip people off?

Are memory cards used the same?
 
filmguy123 said:
So the GoPro uses a new battery system? Does this mean my GoPro 2 batteries will not work with GoPro 3? I know they're only $20, but I had 3... if this is the case, is it changed because the battery is much better, or just to rip people off?

Are memory cards used the same?
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I'm guessing the batteries are smaller because the camera is (smaller) and also has the WiFi built in, leaving less interior space.
They already stated the new one uses micro cards . . . Same rationale I'd imagine.
 
here's the answer to my own question about fov's ...at least according to the hero2 -•170º Wide FOV •127º Medium FOV •90º Narrow FOV

...all of these options are available according to the spec sheet in all 1080p modes including 1080/60p. 90degrees is still pretty wide ...about a 22mm - and the 2.7k option is only available in the ultra-wide 170degree fov...which is rather limiting imo...no pun intended.

....and an update - here's a 2.7k file on vimeo
http://vimeo.com/52004301
...seems some people are picking up the camera already at bestbuy ! ...and suffering earlyadopter syndrome !
 
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Reminds me of those fish eyed pictures of the Venus landscape which were later corrected. The early adopters archive their footage in 2.7 K and will fix it in post.
 
Protune has the strongest emphasis on image quality by increasing the data-rate (decreasing compression) from an average of 15Mb/s to 35Mb/s. Small artifacts that can occur in detailed scenes or extreme motion are gone at 35Mb/s.
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...from the david newman article linked to in one of my previous posts...since everyones too "lazy" to actually read anything !
 
Couple video frame grabs that my buddy just shot over the last couple of weeks with the GoPro 3. These cameras are sick for what they are! Hoping for mine in the next week or two. I'm ready to get it on my heli!
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