New CS6 User with a few questions

Scott F

Scott F

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Hello. I forced myself to make the switch from Final Cut 6 & 7 to Premiere CS6. Overall, I am really enjoying Premiere but as a fairly new user, I have a few bugs to work out.

One of the reasons is obvious.....I had to move on, as newer computers & OS will not work with Final Cut Pro. I bought a Macbook Pro for travel, but my primary editing system is a 2009 tower with OS 10.6.8 , 20 gigs of RAM and an NVIDIA Quadro 4000. which brings me to my first question:

- I have a Blackmagic intensity card that allows me to view my work on an external monitor. Works wonderfully with FCP. As for Premiere, I can indeed view & edit on a blackmagic timeline with "unrendered" footage (yellow)
But when I do a timeline render (green), everything goes janky. Playback is stuttered, audio/video out of sync on my external monitor. It is even slightly stuttered in the record/program window. The only positive is that when I take that rendered timeline and make a movie for say Vimeo, everything looks fine. So worse case, I can do my edits in an unrendered timeline and then just make a 2nd, rendered sequence for delivery.
EDIT: I've found working in a standard AVCHD 1080p square pixel sequence works great. No need to use the blackmagic sequences.

- The program is a memory/storage hog. Am I wrong? I noticed between AE & Premiere with the memory cache, all my hard drive space was getting sucked away. (I had not had issues with this on CS5.5) I diverted everything over to a fast external drive. Any tips to keep things under control? I guess I have to go back once a project is done and trash Media Cache Files.

-Any way to disable that pesky "Fit Clip" warning window (ie "the source is shorter than the destination") that comes up when you do an overwrite edit? That thing really kills my workflow, whereas final cut would just slap the clip down w/0 any friendly suggestions during a 3 point edit.

I'm just throwing these questions out to anyone that might have suggestions, and I realize my ramblings might not make sense. Thanks in advance. Overall I miss the smooth-as-glass editing in FCP with prores, but like I said, I gotta move on rather than keep working with a program from 2008.
 
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CS6 with Mavericks? Yeah or nay? Any feedback?

I purchased a Macbook late last year (build 12F45) equipped with Mountain Lion BUT with eligibility for free upgrade to Mavericks. the computer always prompts me to upgrade, but I'm of the thinking, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Anything I should watch out for if I'm going to be primarily using Premiere, AE, PS and Illustrator? I would think the CS6 was designed for Mountain Lion and just stay put, but if it made the computer any better/faster I'd hate to miss out.

EDIT: primarily editing 1920X1080 AVCHD and H.264 DSLR footage.
 
Scott, I made the switch as well and run a very similar editing setup.

I've noticed that AE is a total memory hog but haven't noticed it too much in Premiere. It might be the AVCHD footage that hogs it in Premiere. As for storage, it will definitely eat that up with its render files. But that is something even FCP does. I have a separate drive that handles just the render files.

If you quit AE but your machine doesn't purge the RAM cache very quickly, get a program called Free Memory from the Apple Store. It allows you to manually purge the RAM cache. With as much RAM as you have installed, it will take a few minutes but it is worth it. I use it all the time.

As for upgrading to Mavericks, I have not done that yet either. I can still use FCP if I need to on my system (old projects with a client that keeps coming back for some minor updates) and I haven't felt the need to migrate that project over to Premiere.

Sorry I don't have an answer about the "Fit Clip" warning. It bugs me too.

Good luck with your editing.
 
Thanks little bobby. Regarding AE, You surely know about this, but just in case not.....you can manually purge the disk cache (boy, does it add up quick) in preferences>Media & Disk cache>Empty Disk Cache.

I too just diverted render files, ect to a separate drive. I thought I had a memory leak when I first upgraded to CS6! All is working fine now and I just delete render files as I finish projects.

In regards to the "fit clip" issue....I have noticed in PP CC when that window comes up, there is the option to check off how you prefer to edit, ie "ignore source out point".

I'm going back & forth on which version I like better (CS6 or CC), but most definitely CS6 is working well for me.
 
Glad to hear CS6 is working well. I did know about that trick, but it is just about 1.5 seconds faster to click on the Free Memory drop-down in the Apple Menu Bar.

I haven't edited on CC yet, but I am sure work will be upgrading soon as I hear they get a decent educational discount.
 
Rather than opening a new ticket, i'm going to bump my old thread:

I have an audio issue that I'm wondering if it can be tackled within Premiere CS6 audio filters. Working on a spoofy corporate skit with a couple guys talking at a table, each was wearing a lav. During the filming, an ambient "whoosh" was present from the building's HVAC system. It's not *awful* but certainly it's there. Think the ambient sound when you are on a plane, but not that bad (thank god). For the record, I was fully aware of the sound, which permeated the entire floor we were shooting on....but there was no choice but to shoot that day/location.

So, that leads me to my question: any Premiere 6 audio filters or EQ tricks that will diminish loud room tone or ambient noise? I'll make this work one way or another, but I'd love it to be as good as it can be.....for a comedic corporate sketch. : )

I could probably post a quick clip for any sound gurus. Audio is not my forte.

thanks,
Scott
 
Premiere has Noise Reducer and also Spectral Noise Reducer in the audio effects tab. Should fix all or most of the sound problem.


Jim
 
Thanks, gentleman. Your feedback is appreciated. First order would be to try and tackle this in Premiere with the filters arco mentioned....but Jim, if i do decide to go the Audition route, what would be the best step?

I'm assuming: get a locked edit, and then just export that dialogue audio as one file? Once in Audition, any filters or steps you can recommend? I don't want to take away your time, but if you can reply back with further info....much appreciated.

I'm also planning on smoothing things out with a music bed and some room tone, like I said, I'll make this work but I want it to be good. I know PP CC has a plethora of new audio filters (like the great AU peak limiter for boosting soft levels) but i kind of have to keep this as a PP6 project.
 
Audition has several effects under Noise Reduction/Restoration. Detailing their use is somewhat beyond the scope of a public forum.
 
C'mon Jim, can't you just explain it all and do my work for me? :grin:

This one is just a rant: Has anyone noticed in later Mac versions of Premiere and After Effects that when you go to import media by double-clicking from folders, it grabs everything? Maybe I'm just heavy-handed, but I can't click into sub folders to grab assets before the program tries to take everything in whole-hog. Work-around for me is twirling down the folders versus double-clicking.

For video clips I use the media browser, but just prefer to import audio files, images via command-i. guess I will have to use browser for everything.
 
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