Nesting scenes vs. one big timeline...

[Viscount Omega]

I'm in the middle of shooting my film but I've begun thinking about the best way to edit and render the monster when I'm finished.

I got a new video card and power supply hooked up today. My system doesn't crash from overheating anymore but render times are not greatly improved. That's disappointing and from what I've read here and elsewhere, seems to be par for the course. Vegas doesn't seem to take advantage of the GPU processing as much as it could. My games look and play great though! :thumbsup:

To make a Blu-ray mpeg-2 file, I'm leaning toward editing all my 2-3 minute scenes as separate projects and dropping them onto a master timeline, then rendering that. If I do that, is there any loss in quality versus just using one big timeline?

To render for streaming services, it seems all the companies want Prores 422 files. A guy from Sony recommends rendering to a master file in "Sony MXF HD422 1920x1080-60i 50 Mbps" format, then transferring that file to a Mac laptop and rendering to Prores 422 from there. I don't know why he recommends 60i instead of 24p (which is what most people shoot in). That would involve rendering twice which I don't like. Anyone know a better or different way? Thanks.

 

[David Jimerson]

To make a Blu-ray mpeg-2 file, I'm leaning toward editing all my 2-3 minute scenes as separate projects and dropping them onto a master timeline, then rendering that. If I do that, is there any loss in quality versus just using one big timeline?

There will be no loss in quality, but it'll add tremendously to render times vs. just doing it all one timeline. I'd suggest the latter.

To render for streaming services, it seems all the companies want Prores 422 files. A guy from Sony recommends rendering to a master file in "Sony MXF HD422 1920x1080-60i 50 Mbps" format, then transferring that file to a Mac laptop and rendering to Prores 422 from there. I don't know why he recommends 60i instead of 24p (which is what most people shoot in). That would involve rendering twice which I don't like. Anyone know a better or different way? Thanks.

I'd definitely do everything in 24p. If they absolutely need a 60i file for streaming, which I highly doubt, then make a 24p master first, and render out a 60i copy for that service, made from the 24p master. In other words, avoid 60i for absolutely as long as you can.

 

[Viscount Omega]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I'm having problems with the nesting experiment. It's freezing up when loading/rendering the separate project scenes onto the master timeline so I think I'm going to scrap that idea. This happened even after I deleted all the visual effects plug-ins.

Maybe I'll work on 5 minute sections of the film at a time then copy/paste the picture files onto a master timeline. I'll lose any envelopes and track effects but there's hardly any of them anyway. They can be replaced if necessary. This way there's no re-rendering for a Blu-ray mpeg-2 file.

I think my audio tracks are too complicated and risky to move around. Lots of envelopes and effects. I would pull my hair out if I had to re-sync all of them for some reason. I'll render them separately and put a 24 bit stereo or 5.1 surround track on each sections' timeline. It will get rendered twice but I think it will sound ok.

For the MXF file needed for the Prores 422 master, 24p looks better. In 60i, I can see the interlace lines.

Thanks again.