Neflix To Stop Slow Streaming Warnings After Verizon Issues Cease and Desist Order

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Netflix (NFLX) will stop sending warnings of slow streaming due to poor Internet connection to users for the time being.



The move comes after Verizon (VZ) issued a cease and desist against the company, stating that Netflix can’t prove that slow streaming speeds are linked to Verizon’s services. The streaming service will stop sending these messages by June 16.

However, Netflix believes that Verizon has yet to live up to a deal between the companies that would allow the service to send traffic directly to the ISP.
Netflix’s monthly streaming-speed report shows that the streaming speed of Verizon users has dipped from 1.99Mbps in April to 1.9Mbps in May.

Netflix inked a similar deal with Comcast (CMCSA) to send traffic directly to the ISP.
The streaming speed of Comast users has increased from 1.68Mbps in April to 2.5Mbps in May (that's news to me...)

http://investorplace.com/2014/06/nflx-neflix-vz-cmcsa/#.U5aJoC9flAQ
 
They should keep the sign, and provide a link to their data. 1 Mbps! What a disgrace...

you can also see, among other things, that the U.S. has some of the slowest streaming speeds in the developed world, below every European country except Ireland and lagging behind much poorer countries elsewhere in the Americas like Mexico and Brazil
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Man, you get screwed by your ISP on that side of the pond... Take away Ireland, and there are only 5 providers in the US that are faster than the slowest provider in Europe (talktalk in the UK, with 2.58 Mbps).
 
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In many ways the U.S. is not quite as advanced as the rest of the developed world. 30 years ago that statement would have seemed outrageous. Sad.
 
Robert Ruffo said:
In many ways the U.S. is not quite as advanced as the rest of the developed world. 30 years ago that statement would have seemed outrageous. Sad.
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The difference between local ISP's buying bandwidth on universal publicly built networks vs each ISP building out their own. Where they have one really fat network infrastructure, we have a bunch of overlapping less capable networks that cost more. Sometimes public commonwealth and cooperation beats corporate competition.
 
Samuel H said:
They should keep the sign, and provide a link to their data. 1 Mbps! What a disgrace...


Man, you get screwed by your ISP on that side of the pond... Take away Ireland, and there are only 5 providers in the US that are faster than the slowest provider in Europe (talktalk in the UK, with 2.58 Mbps).
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It seems to be very complicated. The speeds listed are for DSL, which is yesterday's technology. Cable or Fiber have much higher data rates. I have ~ 30Mbps down and 5Mbps up with U-verse. Before that the same with Time Warner Cable. The US is a huge country and there is a lot of variation.

Now what is troubling is that people with fast internet connections are still reporting issues. So the middle part of the chain must be the problem. A corporate struggle once again...
 
^ Not really: they test all providers, including for example Verizon FiOS, which ended up at 1.9 Mbps, slower than any DSL provider in Europe (if you exclude Ireland and only consider the countries that have Netflix). AT&T U-VERSE ends up at an even slower 1.7 Mbps according to these measures by Netflix (so no need for the Ireland exception in this case). Something's definitely going wrong somewhere.

I would think that the numbers never get higher than 4 Mbps because Netflix content doesn't require higher bandwidth. But the average in many EU countries is higher than the best result in the US, so it's not like you have more bandwidth than you could use.

http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa
http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/


BTW: how much is that cable connection over there? Here the Internet+Phone combo (i.e. no TV) would be $54/month on a cheap provider (the one I have), $89/month on an expensive one (always final price, I don't care for 1-year promos).
 
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Well, I guess I was referring to overall speed, not just "Netflix" speed. I do not have Netflix... I am not backing any side because the whole story I tough to know. Netflix might not be 'towing the line' so to speak. Or they are being blackmailed by the hardware side. I don't know.

My land line phone + internet is $70 per month with the 12-month promo.
 
I'm not sure how Netflix got those single digit speeds???
Is that the speed specifically of Netflix, ie after throttling?

Go to http://www.netindex.com/ ("get started")
and you can hover over each country for average speed, click on the country for details, including state-by-state in the US.

NJ appears to be the fastest (!), followed by MD and Utah, then Mass, SD, NY, and NH.

US 24.5Mbps (same as Russia)
Canada 22.6
Spain 25
France 33.5
UK 28.3
Germany 26.4
Netherlands 46.3
Norway 29
Sweden 49.3
Australia 14.9

These are national averages, and of course especially in a large country like the US, with many providers and plans, YMMV.

I was going to complain about my Comcast (I just complained to them last week) but when I tested just now on Speedtest.net (3 times) I got 57.7/11.6 average :shocked:

And this is regular Comcast broadband.

Maybe that's why the 11GB of videos I uploaded a client the other day wasn't quite as painfully slow as I expected.

I only stream Netflix about 2 or 3 times a month, but haven't gotten a buffer in over a year. Maybe 2.

Though I still wish I had Google Fiber... :thumbsup:
 
John Oliver had a good bit on his show last week about net neutrality that mentioned this. IIRC, the speeds went down while they were negotiating a contract then magically went back up when they signed.
 
Wait, I thought just a few days ago that people were saying that Netflix was NOT going to comply with that, they even released a statement. And now they are? I am really confused about what is going on here to be honest with you. I wish they’d stick it to Verizon.
 
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