need really simple lossless video editor (cutter/joiner)

FiddlerMD

FiddlerMD

Well-known member
While i'm comfortable in an NLE of any sort, sometimes I just want to trim a file or rotate it or something of that sort. I need a simple utility that'll just let me do simple things and be lossless - whatever format I throw at it, it should just trim the desired frames (or insert new ones) and spit out a modified file in the original format w/o re-encoding.
Would be good if it had a simple interface too.
I tried Machete and it seems to do most of that (can't rotate) but it keeps complaining about keyframes and I really don't understand it - when I follow the instructions for setting the keyframe it still doesnt work so that's getting uninstalled.

Any others? (for windows please)
 
I think a program called Videoredo lets you trim without all the recoding. I don't think it handles all the different formats thgough.
 
I found xilisoft video cutter which seems to work so i guess that may work for me unless someone has a more useful solution
 
FiddlerMD said:
it handles stuff like MTS, avchd, avi, mkv, etc without transcoding??
Click to expand...

It handles anything Quicktime supports without transcoding. I just did a test on my MacBook Pro with footage from a DSLR. It worked fine. I assume the Windows version works the same. Ass long as you have the right codec's installed it will process them.
 
Womble lossless editor

Womble lossless editor

altarvic said:
You can try SolveigMM Video Splitter
Click to expand...
First, thanks for this suggestion, it looks interesting to me, too.
FiddlerMD said:
this one looks pretty good!
Click to expand...
I registered just to also let you know about Womble http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...NBY3lVqwIrJ1eYPIw&sig2=6ozmRYmxukGi6OWX1KsV_w or http://goo.gl/U6rkB I found it years ago in my desperation for specifically a lossless MPEG2/VOB editor. With the right codecs you can still edit other formats but of course they will require transcoding. If you keep the same audio format then the audio would not be transcoded, though. It has the ability to save to MPEG1 and MPEG2 and a variety of sub-formats of them (audio only, separate video and audio, etcetera), also AVI (including lossless which takes up an ungodly amount of space and AVI has the 2GB filesize limit), and MP4. Also to DVD structure without transcoding where possible. The DVD portion certainly isn't the end-all of DVD editors, but it can do the job if you're looking to go lossless from another VOB or MPEG2 to begin with. One of Womble's strengths in editing is unlike SolveigMM, it can play both forwards and backwards in real-time, and also at medium and fast speeds. I also noticed at least with a full-length 1080p MKV file that SolveigMM's frame and key-frame increments both forward and backward didn't work. In Womble, at least on my 4-year old laptop but with discrete ATI graphics, playing the full-length 1080p MKV at normal speed was jerky, although medium and fast worked better since they use B and key frames. So my plan is to edit it using SolveigMM first, to save only the parts I need to do further, finer editing of. Then from there I'll test both SolveigMM and Womble's ability to edit the remaining footage exactly how I want. In the end, though for what I need, I'll need to use Womble for the last step(s) because I'll be replacing the audio with another source.
 
roirraWedorehT said:
First, thanks for this suggestion, it looks interesting to me, too. I registered just to also let you know about Womble http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...NBY3lVqwIrJ1eYPIw&sig2=6ozmRYmxukGi6OWX1KsV_w or http://goo.gl/U6rkB I found it years ago in my desperation for specifically a lossless MPEG2/VOB editor. With the right codecs you can still edit other formats but of course they will require transcoding. If you keep the same audio format then the audio would not be transcoded, though. It has the ability to save to MPEG1 and MPEG2 and a variety of sub-formats of them (audio only, separate video and audio, etcetera), also AVI (including lossless which takes up an ungodly amount of space and AVI has the 2GB filesize limit), and MP4. Also to DVD structure without transcoding where possible. The DVD portion certainly isn't the end-all of DVD editors, but it can do the job if you're looking to go lossless from another VOB or MPEG2 to begin with. One of Womble's strengths in editing is unlike SolveigMM, it can play both forwards and backwards in real-time, and also at medium and fast speeds. I also noticed at least with a full-length 1080p MKV file that SolveigMM's frame and key-frame increments both forward and backward didn't work. In Womble, at least on my 4-year old laptop but with discrete ATI graphics, playing the full-length 1080p MKV at normal speed was jerky, although medium and fast worked better since they use B and key frames. So my plan is to edit it using SolveigMM first, to save only the parts I need to do further, finer editing of. Then from there I'll test both SolveigMM and Womble's ability to edit the remaining footage exactly how I want. In the end, though for what I need, I'll need to use Womble for the last step(s) because I'll be replacing the audio with another source.
Click to expand...

Thanks, will check it out, though something that does other formats would be preferred. I know VLC can do these things technically but it's so freaking complicated to set up .. when is their video editor coming out already?!
 
FiddlerMD said:
Thanks, will check it out, though something that does other formats would be preferred. I know VLC can do these things technically but it's so freaking complicated to set up .. when is their video editor coming out already?!
Click to expand...

It's a shame that audio and video editing, and DVD creation/burning all share the same things in common. They're more of an art than a science from my perspective, and everybody and their brother (and sister too) makes a program for it, so it's so hard to find the ones that are truly worth mentioning, and none of the ones I found do every single thing with the possible exception of Sony Vegas or other software that I haven't tested thoroughly, but is so feature-full it's too intimidating for me to dive into. VSO ConvertXtoDVD is another I lump into those that work reliably, although everything has their quirks and ConvertXtoDVD isn't lossless, yet, even when dealing with DVD-compliant MPEG2 or VOB files.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top