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AlexCFrey

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I tried searching around this forum for my answer but didn't find it. I'm a newbie to using DVX..............

I captured DVX footage shot for a short film I am working on, using a sony TRV-18 1-chip handycam as my source for capture. But then when I click on the clips that I have captured and view the properties, it said that they are in 30 fps.

How do I change it so that FCP captures my DVX footage in 24p?

Also, I burned a DVD of that same footage after I captured it and added Magic Bullet filters to see what it looked like on a television screen, and I was rather dissapointed because it definately didn't look like other DVX footage I had seen. It looked like it was shot on any ordinary 3-chip miniDV camera.

Could this be due to the clips being captured at 30fps? (I don't think it's my DP cuz I saw a short of his shot on DVX and the quality looked much better then the footage he shot for my short).

Thanks.
 
Sorry, I don't think I'm understanding exactly what you are asking.

Let me rephrase what I think you said and see if I'm understanding correctly. I believe you have hired a DP to shoot footage for a short film. The DP used a DVX for the shots. At the end he provided you with the tapes. You are uploading the tapes into Final Cut using a Sony TRV-18 as your edting deck. You were under the impression that the footage was shot in 24p. But when you capture the clips in Final Cut, the footage appears to be coming in at 30p and does not have the quality you expected. Right?

The Sony deck will have no effect on what is being captured or what was recorded by the DVX to tape. miniDV is miniDV.

You need to verify whether the footage was shot in 24p "normal" mode, or whether it was shot in 24pA "advanced" mode. Or perhaps it actually was shot in 30p? After you determine what kind of foramt is being used on the tape, you can then choose appropriate project settings in FCP to capture the video.

You should take a look at the results *before* you add "Magic Bullet." To make sure that you are getting the results you want.
 
hey thanks for responding man....

but yeah what you said is actually what I mean. The footage was definately shot in 24p, but im not sure if it was 24pA or 24p standard. What would I have to do to my settings in FCP if it was 24pA. And what about if it was 24p standard? I will definately find out once my DP calls me back.

And on the DVD, I had the footage before I added MB, and the footage after, so even the footage before I added the filters does not look like other DVX footage I have seen.

It just doesn't look smooth like other DVX footage I have seen.
 
Sounds like it was shot in 24PA. 24PA repeats frames to top it up to 30fps, whereas 24P "normal" creates frames from adjacent fields of the original frames. The 24p "normal" provides smooth motion on a 30fps timeline, but its difficult to get back to the original frames. The 24PA format makes it easy for editing software to recognize the repeated frames and drop them out, restoring the original 24 frames. That's intended to be captured in 24 fps and edted on a 24fps timeline.

If you captured 24PA in a 30fps project, and it didn't remove the extra frames, the motion would look stuttering. Recapture in a 24fps project and see if that helps. The 24 fps project type should remove the extra frames. That would explain the results you see -- 24PA marked as 30 -- with discontinuous motion.

The other situation could be that it was shot in 24P normal with the intention of editing on a 30 fps timeline. And if that was pulled into a 24 fps project the editor could try to remove the extra frames and perahps drop the wrong ones. I've seen that happen in Premiere Pro 1.5, but never in Final Cut.
 
alright Andy, once again thanks for the help. I got some info.

The footage was shot on 24p normal (on a dvx100a). So do I change the capture presets to 23.98 fps? Do I change the timeline presets to 23.98 fps as well? Or do I do one or the other?

Also, under capture presets should I use the Advanced 2:3:3:2 pulldown or no? thanks again
 
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