My Equipment List for Doco, and some other questions

Bunyip

Active member
Hi there,
First, I'd like to say that I have spent many hours digging deep into this excellent forum in search of answers to my many questions. A whole bunch were answered at this stage, and so what you see posted here are those questions I couldn't find answers for, or, am still up in the air about [such as the often seen 16:9 v 4:3 debate].

PROJECT
So, I am going to be shooting a doco, which will feature mostly indoor interviews, however I will definitely be doing outdoor interviews as well. I will also be shooting indoor events in a large convention centre type environment with lots of people etc.
I suspect a lot of it will be a one man show. however I have read enough posts here to rethink this, and where possible, try to get someone else to help and operate camera or sound, depending on their skills. Won't always happen though. As I will be travelling by myself to the US for a lot of it. [I live in Australia]
There will certainly be a run and gun aspect to parts of the project.

I am going to shoot 25p, and would like to see it end up on film for entry in festivals etc. etc. so am wanting to shoot 16:9. more of this later.

BUDGET. You know, that thing which starts at one figure and then once you start shopping quickly doubles, and ultimately has no correlation to the final amount you actually drop for all this stuff! So, my budget is $10,000 Aussie. The gear we are talking about here is often about half as expensive again compared to the prices in the US. I am doing a trip to the States later in the year, and will probably use that as an opportunity to pick up certain items, such as a quality shotgun mike, zoom controller etc.


EQUIPMENT
1. CAMERA - My DVX102BE [That's the PAL version in Australia] arrives in a couple of days. [rubs hands together and grins expansively]

2. The first and most obvious choice after the camera was Barry's book, which will arrive soon, and I can't wait to immerse myself in it.

3. EQUIPMENT BAG - Kata HB-207. tbanucci, another forum member, got me sold on the kata backpacks. He has the BP-502, however Aussie domestic airlines are a little stricter than the US, and we can't take that as carry on. The 207 looks plenty big to me though, and has a million pockets and looks tough as nails.

4. TRIPOD - Not ordered yet. I was going to get the Manfrotto/Bogen 503 head with the 755 sticks. However I am thinking I might fork over the little extra for the Miller DS10 and 1511 combo.
QUESTION - Is it worth the extra $200 for the carbon fibre sticks as compared to the alloy? The weight difference seems minimal.
Also, anyone out there reckon a monopod would be handy to have as well?

5. MICROPHONES - This is a tricky one. We don't have nearly the range of choice you have in the US or Europe here in Australia. And what is here is bloody epensive.
SHOTGUN - I have had the Sennheiser k6/ME66 combo reccomended by the store I'm getting the camera from, however I've read enough posts to think I can do better for similar bucks. Since I will be interviewing indoors and out, and after reading a post by The Yankee, I am thinking I'll wait until I get to the US, and get the AKG Blueline Series, with th SE300B preamp, and the CK93, and CK 98 caps. Then I'm covered for indoor and out.
WIRELESS LAV - Sennheiser EW112P-G2. Pretty much the only choice I can find here in my price range, other than cheaper ones. Is it worth getting the omni-directional mic as well, for a situation where perhaps I want to pick up other people's voices in an interview? [I suspect I know what the answer will be...]

6. ON CAMERA LIGHT - Thinking the vidLED system looks good. I like the fact it's dimmable, low heat and low power consumption.
http://www.vidled.com/ Anyone tried one of these out?
I know I will need more lighting for interviews, however that can be rented when i need it.

7. FILTERS - Any preference of brand here? I see Hoya and Tiffen mentioned a lot.
My store has a Canon set of 3 filters, UV, Polariser and FL for $230 Aussie. I am thinking Canon has gotta be making a pretty decent filter. I will probably wind up getting some ND filters as well at some stage, to help with DOF. This is just my starter pack.

MISC - The Varizoom PFZI zoom controller which also controls focus and iris.
Spare batteries - several of the DVXUser batts.

Now for the million dollar question which I'm sure will have some of you rolling your eyes.... Do I shoot 16:9 or 4:3 and then put bars in post?
I am very, very keen for my finished work to be in the wider format. I know doco's do appear in 4:3 etc etc, but 16:9 just does it for me. I don't want the 16:9 adaptor lens and all the associated problems that will cause for me. So, I am deciding to do it in camera.
Now, before you all start punching me and say "go read the other posts!!!!" - believe me, I have I have!!! And I was really hoping to find a definitive answer. But I always get to the end of the thread still undecided as there are good arguments for and against. And I totally understand the argument about lost resolution if you shoot squeezed. However, since I am shooting PAL, I am getting roughly twice the resolution I believe. So even though I lose res if I shoot 16:9, I'm still ahead than if I was doing it on an NTSC camera right? So, hopefully my finished, film projected image won't look like a mushy pile of mush.

Thanks for your perseverance in reading this far, and double thanks to anyone who has any practical feedback for me.

Cheers
 
Re: mics: get an Oktava MC012 with hyper cap and BBG and Windjammer and K-SSM shockmount; it will be well worth it!
Get an Oktava MC012 with hyper cap and BBG and Windjammer and K-SSM shockmount; it will be well worth it!
(it was worth repeating!)

Also, a 0.6x Century Optics $350 USD wide angle lens will be a good investment, and you will find that you will get great looking results using it, especially indoors.

Also, you will want some kind of shoulder support, where you can follow someone around more "fluidly". Try and avoid to have EACH shot static on a tripod, and have the interviewee in a "talking head" type shot. It is not a nice documentary film style.....AT ALL (IMHO).

Filters: if the dough can be streched, try get the best Polarizer you can; i.e. a Kaesemann glassed B+W or a Heliopan brand might be a good step up from Tiffen and Hoya.

16:9 issue: although frowned upon by some here, don't dismiss the SQUEEZE mode. It's a simple way to get fine looking 16:9.



#6 looks good as is! :)
 
I will chime in about the tripod. In April I shot a doc in Guatemala. I used much of the equipment you list, including an aluminum Miller DS10 one-stage tripod.

Overall, I loved working with the Miller. It has a true fluid head (or so I'm told), it sets up very quickly, and produces smooth results.

I have two complaints with the tripod:

1. no backlit leveler (which can pose a hassle when working at night)

2. Weight. No, it's not THAT heavy. In fact, it's probably quite light as tripods go. But every time I picked it up to haul to the next location, in the back of my mind I was thinking, "I need to get the carbon fiber sticks." I know that carbon fiber only saves a few ounces, but when you are shooting on the run, every ounce counts. So, yeah, the carbon fiber is probably worth a couple hundred bucks extra. At least you'll know you got the lightest available.
 
thanks for the response gentlemen.

vidled, why do you make that mic recommendation? Obviously it's the quality you like - but why else? Will this one cap work well for interior and exterior applications?
I take your point about a wide adaptor. I am going to wait and see just how wide I can go when i get to play around with the camera, but I am suspecting i will need a wide adaptor, as you mention.
I currently have limited optoins with the polariser, but I may do the upgrade when i go shopping in the US.

Oh, and I noted your comments on the lights! hehe.
Actually, you will be the perfect person to answer my next question about them. In looking at the different models, it seems to me that it's worth getting the coolLED for maximum brightness, and then gel it if I need to correct for daylight [rather than getting the daylight]. Would that be right or am i missing something here?

Sean, thanks for your comments too. I have lugged enough stuff around in the past to know exactly what you mean about a few ounces making a big difference. Maybe I'll treat myself to the carbon's if I get them round my birthday!

Finally, I might re-post this in a more high traffic area, as I know that this is a bit of a backwater down here.
:)
 
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