My Chinon Super 8

They make boxes that work around a similar concept to mini35 adapters where you project the image very brightly on a small area and tape that. Apparently, the quality is pretty good. I think I may buy one of these despite not having a projector.
 
monte said:
Bah John you always forget about me <-- 16 works at Panera's! Comon John, I'd expect better of you. From now on I'm calling you Sandwich Johnny.
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I didn't forget. I just figured you had nearly a 1000 posts and it went without saying. :)
 
Sirius_Doggy said:
Beats me - Maybe Barry or one of the "film" guys knows. Had to be pretty easy for the average joe to use though. I've never loaded it. Both cameras above seem to load the same way.
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The cameras you're showing pictures of use "daylight-load" spools. The black spools protect the film from exposure (except for the bit at the end that wraps around the rest of the spool). So no, you don't need a film tent or changing bag for those.

Super 8 was even easier -- it comes in a sealed plastic cartridge, which you pop in 'n' out of the camera, about as easy as loading a DV tape.
 
Regarding buying cameras -- go ebay. You can get a new, never-used Krasnogorsk-3 16mm camera for, well, last time I looked they were going for about $150. Seems the factory went bankrupt and instead of paying their employees their back wages, they just handed 'em unsold cameras instead.

Super 8 cameras are all over ebay, you can find working cams for $10 or so. Don't get Regular 8 unless you really know what you're doing; R8 film stock is much more difficult to find, processing is more difficult to locate, etc. Stick with Super 8 if you want to use the small 8mm film gauge.
 
"In Russia - car drives YOU!"

Barry - I noticed that when talking about the K-3, you mentioned that the most you'll get out of it is about 25 seconds of footage each time. I'm not very familiar with how spring wound setups work, but when it comes to shooting the 1 frame per second stuff on that camera - or lower framerates (8,16 etc) this means that it will add up to 25 seconds of frames at 24 (25x24 = total frames) so lower framerates will help the longevity of 1 wind-up

I hope this makes sense, if not tell me I'm a crazy cracker and throw a chair at me, I wont mind
 
Yes, I'm presuming 24fps (or 25fps). Obviously you are correct -- shooting at a slower frame rate, the spring would last longer (and vice versa, shooting 48fps will mean you only get about 12 seconds).
 
Barry_Green said:
The cameras you're showing pictures of use "daylight-load" spools...
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Thanks, Barry.

Figured another explanation could be there just wasn't high speed film being made back when they were making these cameras, hence fogging wasn't as much of an issue, especially considering the daylight spools.

Anyways, Thank you for the help!

Brian
 
reg 8mm is very hard to come by these days. there are one or 2 people in the world who make it.

pro8mm sucks donkey ass, from a customer service standpoint. forde labs in seattle do better work, they do reversal and neg film, and they don't treat you like a red-headed stepchild.

wells, the 3rd kind of film you mentioned (way back many posts ago,) is negative. camera-original negative is printed to negative film to make a positive for projection. (sort of like if you go "i aint got no money," it means "i have money."- double negative.)

the problem with the chinon in the original post is that many cameras only had 2 asa settings, for the two types of reversal filmstock that were made for the past 40 years or so- kodachrome(40) and ektachrome(160). the smaller numbers just represent the slower asa that goes into effect once the cameras daylight filter is engaged (eating 2/3 of a stop of light.) some cameras were made to read other asa's for when they would theoretically be invented, but that's rarer. i believe john's nikon is in that category- it's either an r8 or r10 i think. some of the best super8 cams ever made. the problem is, kodak is stopping production of kodachrome. they're replacing it with a stock with an asa of 60. if your camera has no manual exposure control, it's gonna overexpose by half a stop. and you don't want to overexpose reversal film. (slight underexposure looks very nice with reversal.)
 
Larry R said:
blckhawk - when I go to this link I get a page that says, "Sorry...The document you requested cannot be found". Can you double check the link, I'd really like to read what you found.

Thanks,
Larry
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Yea i noticed that too...i went to recheck it and it says it cant be found...either the server hosting the site is being stupid..or it was deleted.

but never fear..i found something else for devloping film...a book for $32.00 dollars...teaches you everything. It doesnt seem that bad. Tells you what you need and everything.

http://musicbooksplus.com/product_info.php/products_id/3586

and here are the materials you need too...

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q...,GGLD:2004-08,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=ff&oi=froogler

heres even more books....

http://musicbooksplus.com/index.php/cPath/57?osCsid=5ffe64bc7577269b5b14546318dc4287
 
discs of tron said:
pro8mm sucks donkey ass, from a customer service standpoint. forde labs in seattle do better work, they do reversal and neg film, and they don't treat you like a red-headed stepchild.
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So it wasn't just my lucky lottery phone call? It definatley felt like the red headed step-child issue.

Thats the problem these days; not only with just a lack of ****ing decent customer service or respect as a paying customer but you get an operatoin like this that is one of a few available to you and they know it. So what do they care?

Then you have places like EVS and RUsh who go out of their way to be mellow and make you feel like a first class citizen.
 
Another way you can tell that film in the brownie camera (Sirius) is regular 8 is the sprockets. Regular 8mm has sprockets on both sides, like most film stocks. Super 8 is basically a 16mm film cut in half, so it only has sprockets on one side. This allows for a wider aspect ratio, as part of the film isn't being used for sprockets.
 
John_Hudson said:
So it wasn't just my lucky lottery phone call? It definatley felt like the red headed step-child issue.

Thats the problem these days; not only with just a lack of ****ing decent customer service or respect as a paying customer but you get an operatoin like this that is one of a few available to you and they know it. So what do they care?

Then you have places like EVS and RUsh who go out of their way to be mellow and make you feel like a first class citizen.
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I totally agree with you. Customer Service Reps are all dickheads...well most of them are... I remember I called a Customer Service line at Gateway, regarding something for my computer. And I got this dude who talks like he owns the world.

"well your computer needs to be upgraded whether you need a new hard drive or not."
and he said all this other ****...and the reason i called is cuz i wanted to find out how much a new 400 GB drive would be...and he asked me what hardware i have in my comp...dont know why..prolly compatibility issues or suttin...and hes like..WELL YOU SHOULD UPGRADE!! ITS MANDATORY..im like...wtf you ***** im paying you...so stfu...he hung up.
 
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