My brain hurts!!! DVCPRO HD Export issues

cheezweezl

cheezweezl

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I am exporting from a DVCPRO HD 720P/24 timeline using export/quicktime movie. The export plays fine in quicktime and in the inspector appears to be correct size at 960x720, However when I import back into FCP and drop on a DVCPRO HD 720P/24 timeline, it has to render. In the browser it shows the resolution as 1280x720 rather than 960x720 and the pixel aspect is square rather than DVCPRO HD 720p/60. Changing the aspect setting only makes things worse.

Now for the crazy part. If I export using quicktime conversion and set it to DVCPRO HD 720P/24 it imports and plays fine in FCP on the same timeline. The problem is that exporting this way takes a lot longer. Anybody got a fix for this?
 
Just to look for where the problem comes in:

Try exporting a reference file and import that.

Gunleik
 
gunleik said:
Just to look for where the problem comes in:

Try exporting a reference file and import that.

Gunleik
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reference file? what do you mean by that?

the footage i am working with is straight from the hvx. the problem comes in when i export a cut of that footage and import the cut. the cut is not conforming to the format in which i exported. is it just my system or is this a bug in fcp?
 
When you choose export QT-movie from FCP, uncheck "make the movie selfcontained"

Grab the resulting file and drag it into your timeline.

WARNING
This file will be dependent on your current renders

Gunleik
 
It is a bug in FCP - you will want to put 1 frame or something in native dvcpro-hd 720p at the head of the clip. when you export, if fcp sees a timeline generated title or something, it can default to 1280x720 instead of 960x720. take a clip, apply a color correction to make it black and you should be fine.
 
ohhhhh. that's probably it. i had a second or two of header at the beginning. nothing on the timeline. i will try this.
 
gunleik said:
When you choose export QT-movie from FCP, uncheck "make the movie selfcontained"

Grab the resulting file and drag it into your timeline.

WARNING
This file will be dependent on your current renders

Gunleik
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yeah but that is what i want to avoid. i want a fully rendered movie that i can color correct without extra rendering. you know instead of exporting a reference movie, you can just drop a sequence into another sequence.... same result yes?
 
cheezweezl said:
yeah but that is what i want to avoid. i want a fully rendered movie that i can color correct without extra rendering. you know instead of exporting a reference movie, you can just drop a sequence into another sequence.... same result yes?
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no, not always, and fcp and nests is still a pita by far...

You can colorcorrect either way, but this - to me - seems like a really bad idea, if I understand you right.

You want to cc the original with separate clips, not one mostrous file for a number of reasons.

1. You do want to CC/time your clips individually, to be able to match them and treat similar shots similarily

2. You do NOT want re-renders. Re-renders means just more noise/worse image

3. You COULD take the nest and throw a legalizer on it, but if you've done the CC'ing well, that shouldn't be of much concern

And just to have mentioned it:
IF you want to CC, get yourself some decent monitoring.
That means: Don't use a computerscrean unless that is the only place your film is to be viewed. If you want to watch it on TV's and whatnot, here's your options.

1. Get a videocard and a videomonitor. Better with an SDI solution than a component.

2.l If that's out of your reach: Use a 2nd Apple Cinema Display with the Cinemadesktop function in FCP. It does a pretty good job at emulating a videoscreen. (the key here is "Pretty good"...)

These advices go for HD.

If you're in SD and have a DV-cam with analogue out or something like the AJA IO HD or a converter to analogue or HDMI, connect it to your TV set. You will NOT be able to calibrate your TV properly, but you'll be more in the ballpark than if you use your computermonitor.

Cheers & good luck!

Gunleik
 
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