Must hero always compete over goal?

[Mailliw87]

Tarkovsky

Tarkovsky

Has anyone here seen any of Andrei Tarkovsky's films? I am curious to know if his films follow the structure you guys are talking about here?

I'd be really interested to hearing an analysis on any of his movies.

So far I've seen: ivan's childhood, mirror and Solaris.

Loved all 3 of them, but trying to analyze them with all this in mind just makes my brain lock up.

 

[Randall_Oelerich]

I just added Chaplin to my blockbuster queue, that is a great movie, I have seen it several times (Robert Downey Jr, Mila Jovavich, etc); and i was thinking-- I can not recall a main antagonist individual competing for Charley Chaplin's goal of career success in hw. Rather, as you say, this is a film where the protagonist simple must run the gauntlet through a number of obstacles to his goal.

Right. You don't have to have a villain per se. Just an obstacle to the protagonist's achieving his/her goal that is big enough to engage the viewer. ...

 

[Lt_Col_Wade]

Be careful with the Chaplin reference, though. Sometimes biopics can get away with this because its the specific character were interested in (or at least thats what the writers are hoping). If that were an original piece about some nobody actor trying to get career success, we would be much less interested - we want to see how Charlie Chaplin got to be who he is, not some nobody. But even in biopic and true story cases, it doesnt always work (see the recent Cadillac Records).

 

[Randall_Oelerich]

Good point.:dankk2:

Be careful with the Chaplin reference, though. Sometimes biopics can get away with this because its the specific character were interested in (or at least thats what the writers are hoping). If that were an original piece about some nobody actor trying to get career success, we would be much less interested - we want to see how Charlie Chaplin got to be who he is, not some nobody. But even in biopic and true story cases, it doesnt always work (see the recent Cadillac Records).