Music video (sgblade beta + rotorazor2)

How the hell did you get that weird walking effect where their heads stay in the same place at the top of the frame?

Are you moving the frame in post? Is that intentional?
 
Kholi said:
How the hell did you get that weird walking effect where their heads stay in the same place at the top of the frame?

Are you moving the frame in post? Is that intentional?
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Yeah I couldnt figure out if you were using a snorricam or you were walking instep with the singer?
 
Wow, other than the noise in the beginning (which I think is file compression) the video look wise was on point. A1+Blade rocks, nice and sharp, good bokeh, and nice shots man, good job. The head thing freaked me out too, how did you do that? And where you using some kind of shoulder system during the vid or literally hand holding it?
 
PaPa said:
looks like maybe a post tracking?
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bingo. otherwise alot of time spent manually keyframing or a few minutes to track and stablelize in post.

after watchin the clip, the stabilised shots stand out far too much from the rest of the clip. the focus seems to be on her nose which looks like the area they had tracked. looks like it wasn't used as an artistic device, rather as a steadycam alternative but i'd think it would look a lot better had they smoothed out the track to make it look more organic.
just a personal opinion but the clip as a whole looks beautifully shot and graded.
 
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Hey guys,
my friend used motion tracking in after effects to stabilize the shots.
I also believe that the effect stands too much out and kind of throws me off compared to the other handheld footage, and the stabilize effect also causes this motion blur buzz in the face which I find distracting, but It's not my call to make.
Though we learned that having me walking backwards while doing handheld is not a good idea anymore :)
On the interior stuff, my friend Gustav helped me out where we used a wooden plate with 24 small diode lights from Ikea. I read about those lights in a link posted at the shoot35.com forum were a guy had used them for lighting an interior car scene, and those little buggers worked great! So apart from the scenes where we used diode-lights(bathroom, childs'room), it wass all natural.
I was walking around handheld outside most of the time, but we also had a bike taxi which my director drove me around in for the wider and more steady shots. Those bike-taxies are awesome, we looked like a little gipsy family riding around town in it with a 20 year old boomblaster rigged to a car battery and filled up with camera equipment and guitars :)

- Cheers!
 
Smettli said:
Hey guys,
and the stabilize effect also causes this motion blur buzz in the face which I find distracting,
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This could be minimised by shooting with a higher shutter speed. Motion blur can then be added in the final composite to give it that smoother look.
Mark Christianson has a good method of smoothing out the stabaliser so that it looks more natural. Its in his book "Studio techniques for After Effects" I think it is called.
 
Thanks man, I'll pass that info on to my director.
We did shoot at higher shutter speeds(1/250), but It wasn't enough obviously :)
 
Smettli said:
Hey guys,
my friend used motion tracking in after effects to stabilize the shots.
I also believe that the effect stands too much out and kind of throws me off compared to the other handheld footage, and the stabilize effect also causes this motion blur buzz in the face which I find distracting, but It's not my call to make.
Though we learned that having me walking backwards while doing handheld is not a good idea anymore :)
On the interior stuff, my friend Gustav helped me out where we used a wooden plate with 24 small diode lights from Ikea. I read about those lights in a link posted at the shoot35.com forum were a guy had used them for lighting an interior car scene, and those little buggers worked great! So apart from the scenes where we used diode-lights(bathroom, childs'room), it wass all natural.
I was walking around handheld outside most of the time, but we also had a bike taxi which my director drove me around in for the wider and more steady shots. Those bike-taxies are awesome, we looked like a little gipsy family riding around town in it with a 20 year old boomblaster rigged to a car battery and filled up with camera equipment and guitars :)

- Cheers!
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Smettli, what was your gain setting on the camera with both those Ikea lights and natural light on your indoor shots? I was shooting some indoor stuff this morning with RR2 and a 28mm f2 lens and I had to set gain to +6 to get decent light and that was with 2 400watt lights.
 
We were shooting at gain -3 at all times besides those 3 really dark shots outside, there I shot at 0 and +3.
I don't know what's better, to gain in post or in camera. Do you have any experience with that? I used to think that as long as I had enough light to do proper focus on set I would rather gain in post, but I'm not sure.
 
No, but I'm about to. I'm going to load that video tonight and try. I shot some at -3, 0 and +6. I'll see what works better. I've got another, more important shoot this Sunday and some of it will be indoors so I need to find out which method works best.

Were you using a custom preset or just the default?
 
Smettli said:
I don't know what's better, to gain in post or in camera. Do you have any experience with that?
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I might be wrong, but as far as I understand applying the in-camera gain is done by analog circuit, just before the signal coming from the sensor is sampled. If this is the case, the process is done in analog domain and there's no quantization error - the only problem is that you raise the noise floor, too.
Applying the gain in post should be much worse - when you record the signal that is underexposed you don't use the codec's full dynamic range - you won't be able to recreate the precious bits by digital multiplication (gain)...
 
Thanks! I'll definately remember that the next time I use the a1 :)
I played a little around in the preset(concerning transition to the over exposed areas), but I don't remember what I did exactly. Have had way too little playtime with that camera, hopefully I can afford one myself one time.
 
beautiful and sharp as always smettli:)

You really hit the jackpot with that pentax lens of yours


I won't comment on the stabilizing motion as I can see it has been brought up a lot here.

But you got some very nice lighting going on man..
What was that thing about 24 small lights? How is it done and with what kind of lights?

Just on a side note:
Do you have a shutter you prefer and you use regularly?
 
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