Multi-Angle Editing for Feature Films

ShamrockFilms

ShamrockFilms

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Okay, here's a question about multiclip Editing.

I set up the IN point of each clip before grouping them as a multiclip.

Each clip is a different angle of 1 scene, all shot on the same camera.

Even if I set the IN point of each clip to start at the beginning of the scene, actors never say their lines at the same time they did in another angle.

If I want to switch to another angle it's not synced to where it should be. How do I sync the angle to exactly where I need it when I'm switching angles, dozens of times in one scene?

Is that possible in multiclip editing?

Maybe im better off inserting each angle onto the time line seperately?
 
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Ok, first question you have to answer is, how many different angles did you shoot this scene?

Next question, did you shoot with multiple cameras at the same time, or did you use one camera, and re-shoot the scene multiple times?

If you shot with on cam, moving to different angles and re-shooting each, you won't get anything to sync. People don't act on time code. They'll talk at different speeds and different timing on every take. This is not what the Multiclip edit tool is for. Multiclip editing is for Multicam shoots, when you have multiple cameras shooting the same event at the same time from different angles. Like wedding videos.
 
BenB said:
Ok, first question you have to answer is, how many different angles did you shoot this scene?

Next question, did you shoot with multiple cameras at the same time, or did you use one camera, and re-shoot the scene multiple times?

If you shot with one cam, moving to different angles and re-shooting each, you won't get anything to sync. People don't act on time code. They'll talk at different speeds and different timing on every take. This is not what the Multiclip edit tool is for. Multiclip editing is for Multicam shoots, when you have multiple cameras shooting the same event at the same time from different angles. Like wedding videos.
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- Four angles

- One camera, re-shot the scene multiple times.

Okay, I read your answer...

Then what is the best way to edit four angles, different takes, same scene? Should I just add each angle to the timeline in their own track? The benefit of multiclip is that you can see each angle playing at the same time in the viewer.
 
ShamrockFilms said:
Then what is the best way to edit four angles, different takes, same scene? Should I just add each angle to the timeline in their own track? The benefit of multiclip is that you can see each angle playing at the same time in the viewer.
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You won't get anything to sync in a Multiclip the way you shot it. Multiclip was designed specifically to edit multi-camera shoots. Like when you have 3 or 4 cameras shooting a wedding. Then they sync.

You'll need to place each take in it's own video track. Disable all but V1, cut out what you don't want from it. Repeat to the next three. Then decide how you want to patch them all together.

But no, multiclip editing is for multicamera shots, not multiple retakes, cause you can't get multiple takes of a scene to synce.

The old school trick is to make each clip 25%, then move them to the corners of the Canvas window so you can see them all together. Then, when done select all the clips in the Timeline window, and use Remove Attributes to set them all to full size again.
 
BenB said:
You won't get anything to sync in a Multiclip the way you shot it. Multiclip was designed specifically to edit multi-camera shoots. Like when you have 3 or 4 cameras shooting a wedding. Then they sync.

You'll need to place each take in it's own video track. Disable all but V1, cut out what you don't want from it. Repeat to the next three. Then decide how you want to patch them all together.

But no, multiclip editing is for multicamera shots, not multiple retakes, cause you can't get multiple takes of a scene to synce.

The old school trick is to make each clip 25%, then move them to the corners of the Canvas window so you can see them all together. Then, when done select all the clips in the Timeline window, and use Remove Attributes to set them all to full size again.
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too bad, that would be great to be able to see all the angles in the multiclip viewer and sync them any time I wanted in the viewer and then drap the synced clip to the time line.

Can you explain the old school trick again? Or do a screenshot for me? I like old school tricks! haha. Thanks.
 
You can't resync once a Multiclip has been made. And multiple takes of a film scene have no way of timing themselves to be in sync. Unless your actors are following precisley timed cues off camera.

Scale each clip to 25%
Using Wireframe + Image in the Canvas, put them each in corners so you can see them all at the same time. Cut as you want. Sit in front of FCP, you'll figure it out. It's pretty simple.
 
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ShamrockFilms said:
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Now you've totally lost me...
Here's how I'd set it up. Then cut from tracks what you don't want.
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As you cut away what you don't want, you can **** the clips around in the Timeline independently as they fall out of sync.
 
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