Mulholland Falls (and why I'm not too bright)

Thanks for the good thread guys. This has been a fun read. I particularily enjoyed reading the Ebert and Roeper banter.

Making sense of Lynch's films(MD, Lost Highway inparticular) causes headaches. He owes he numerous hours of my life back... but at the same time i'm happy I've "stretched my cinematic horizons" and seen his work.

You know Lynch was up for an Oscar for Best Director with M.D. Crazy world we live in.

I must admit, the scary guy around the corner with the cops was freaky as hell... made no sense, but freaky as hell.

I gotta check out Elephant Man and Eraserhead still. I hope they make some sense!
 
What is about film that demands that it makes perfect sense? Most of us can, say, appreciate a Dali painting -- it may not make a lick of sense, pure random madness, one may think, and yet we love Dali and rightfully so. But if a beautiful, chaotic painting changes media and is now on film, still as random and mad as Dali, people have a much harder time appreciating it? They say it makes no sense and therefore crap. Aren't we limiting ourselves by saying a film MUST have a cohesive story, period? Isn't there room in film for purely the art of imagery, and appeciation for what those images provoke within you? I haven't seen MD as I've said so it may very well be "crap" to me as well, but I certainly think it's possible to create a 2 hour cinematic masterpiece borne from the chaotic nonsensical depths of slumberland. Perhaps MD is the film -- I'll get back to you. :)
 
xl70e3 said:
It's the reason (gonna get jumped on for this, but what the hell) I hate Jarmush :lipsrseal
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I really really really tried to like Jarmusch. Cause you're supposed to, right? Golden Palm at Cannes and all....

Blecch.

But then I saw Ghost Dog, and loved it. So what the hell? How can someone go from incredibly tedious to engaging?

Likewise Cassavetes. Most of the ones I'm supposed to like...well...suck. Except for Chinese Bookie.

Odd, though. I liked John as an actor, and Gena in everything John didn't direct. Hell, for that matter, I like Jim Jarmusch when he's an actor.

David Lynch? So far, I've liked all I've seen. Maybe I just appreciate not being spoon-fed from time to time.

Jackson Pollock? I'd buy one...wouldn't spend more than $20, but I'd buy one. Didn't spend more than $20 for Mulholland Drive, either. Na und?
 
Obviously everyone's entitled to an opinion, that's what this site is for.

I f you really want to bash Lynch, try Lost Highway. Aside from the included goodness from Rammstein and one strange scene with Robert Blake, it is shite.

"Silencio..." he he he
 
Anyone who's interested in seeing Mullholland Drive should check it out. Maybe you'll like it, maybe you won't. At the very least it's different, the acting is solid, and it's unpredictable. All of which can't be said for horror movies.

Of course you could just go watch Kong instead if you want some real entertainment. That surprise ending was great and the story line was so original - logical, too. I mean some chick running around New York in the middle of winter with just a dress on - that makes sense.

You know what hollywood should do? They should totally remake Kong again next year. Maybe they could even recycle other popular movie ideas, also. We could have a summer of remakes! That would be great.

I've got to go now. Got to get back to work. I've been working on a new invention. It's called the wheel.
 
Cassavetes sucks Except for Chinese Bookie?

Totally have to disagree with you there man.

Faces? Woman Under the Influence? These are two amazing films. Raw human emotion. Except for Polanksi's Repulsion and Knife Under the Water or Herzog's Fitzcaraldo and Wrath of Aguirre I can't think of more statically charged films. amazing work recommend them to all.

I myself like Mulholland Drive because i think there's some good points to be taken from it. However I'm not going to argue Lynch's genius for crafting it. If he deserves any praise it's for Twin Peaks.

Ohh Peter Jackson owes me $10.50. Here's hoping for a Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, Frighteners or BrainDead (Dead-Alive) sequel.

And Hudson, I too am a horror-phile. Where in the genre does your passion lie? Giallo? Cannibal? Slasher? Just curious.
 
Pen Cap Chew said:
Isn't there room in film for purely the art of imagery, and appeciation for what those images provoke within you?
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Of course there's room for it... in music videos and film schools.

I kid, I kid.:laugh:
 
LOL Horse!

I welcome films like MD. We need abstract cinema. Without films like this we may (and I say MAY) not have had Tarantino nad his Non-Linear storytelling (This is a general corellation)

I suppose this type of cinema (aavant-garde) is neccesary for growth and mutation
 
John_Hudson said:
Without films like this we may (and I say MAY) not have had Tarantino nad his Non-Linear storytelling (This is a general corellation)
I suppose this type of cinema (aavant-garde) is neccesary for growth and mutation
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I've read (probably Skip Press--screenwriting guru) that the non-linearity of Pulp Fiction was more Sally Menke (PF's editor) than Tarantino. Could be wrong.
 
HorseFilms said:
Of course there's room for it... in music videos and film schools.

I kid, I kid.:laugh:
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I knew someone would say that. Music videos get a bad rap and are usually frowned upon as a lesser art form. I agree that a lot of music videos are junk, usually a combination of bland music and a bland, uninventive director. But the concept itself, music and imagery ... there's nothing potentially more powerful than that. I think it's funny how some musicians (Eddie Vedder comes to mind) think they are selling out if they make a music video. That's BS, and they are just missing an opportunity to showcase their music in one of the most powerful ways, with imagery. When a music video is done right, for example Cunningham's "Only You" (Portishead) or "Come to Daddy" (Apex Twins), it can be better than most movies that are churned out. And I'm sure Hudson enjoyed Spike Jonze's "Weapon of Choice" (Fatboy Slim). :thumbsup:
 
The Machinist said:
Cassavetes sucks Except for Chinese Bookie?

Totally have to disagree with you there man.

Faces? Woman Under the Influence? These are two amazing films. Raw human emotion. Except for Polanksi's Repulsion and Knife Under the Water or Herzog's Fitzcaraldo and Wrath of Aguirre I can't think of more statically charged films. amazing work recommend them to all.
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Oh, so would I. I just don't like them at all. One viewing, then on the shelf, collecting dust. Absolutely no interest in a rewatch.

I can appreciate them...like I can appreciate the art in the Prado...but I can only think of 2 or 3 paintings there that I actually like, and would buy a print of. Or ome songs I hear on the radio...will listen to them, but not buy the CD.

Hard to explain. Hmmm...like Divorce His/Divorce Hers versus He Said/She Said. Hmmm...no, that's just silly.
 
When I saw MD at the cinema I left with two things. It was the first Naomi Watts film I saw and thought wow she really can act. The second thing was wow I dont know what DL was on but I just sat through an entire movie and thought painstainkingly over every scene and every word.

P.S. I hated the hollywood ring... loved the original Japanese version. Regardless still love Naomi especially so as she is a fellow Aussie.
 
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