Moving from FCP to PrCS6 PROBLEM with workflow/shortcuts

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Tim_

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Hi guys

I really want to move to Premiere Pro CS6 but I can't quite get the comfortable enough way for yourself of Premiere editing workflow...

So I used to very quick and efficient way to editing my materials...

My most often used work on my projects comes to this:

There is a long solid clip and I need to toss away (ripple delete) unwanted parts of it.

So in Final Cut Pro I scroll through the clip usig JKL keys, then mark In and Out (of what I want to delete) and press Ripple Delete shortcut.

So this is 3 steps: set the IN - 1, set OUT - 2 and press Ripple Delete shortcut - 3.

Editing in short 3 easy steps way. And thats why I like it so much...

BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT FIND ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN PREMEIRE CS6...

I look everywhere I could, but cannot find the easy and quick way to replicate something like this in PrCS6...

I don't really get the logic behind all those rolling and dynamic trimming thingy...

All methods I see in Pr tutorials includes many many many more "bowls" and other movements to make something that is so simple.

How shorcuts and techniques are you guys using, when you need to delete a specific portion of the clip in main the timeline (sequence)?

Thanx in advance for your tips and advice!
 
I don't think you should blame the software, but instead blame your inept at it. Premier can actually trim in and out, and you just pull that into your timeline. I have no idea what you mean by Ripple Delete Shortcut because I have no experience in Final Cut, can you please clarify?
 
Tim_ said:
Editing in short 3 easy steps way. And thats why I like it so much...
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1. Set an In Point.
2. Set an Out Point.
3. Use the keyboard shortcut for Extract. (Or click the Extract button in the Program panel)

/Roger
 
You haven't played with the software longer enough, Tim. I can do those exact steps in Premiere Pro like Averdahl and keep going. Have you thought of changing your keyboard shortcuts to the FCP 7 defaults? Also if you want to ripple delete you can press Shift+Delete. If I were you, I would invest in some Lynda.com training or some other training from Premiere Pro experts. I'm an FCP diehard myself but I was able to adapt to the Premiere Pro ecosystem quicker than trying to learn the Avid ecosystem. If you get out of the mindset that all NLEs should work like FCP 7 and are bad cause they don't, you will miss out on how great an application Premiere Pro is. Does it still need some tweaks? Of course but this latest version of Premiere Pro has made greater strides than previous versions before. I will always be an FCP 7 fanboy but it will be phased out of existence soon or later.
 
Averdahl said:
1. Set an In Point.
2. Set an Out Point.
3. Use the keyboard shortcut for Extract. (Or click the Extract button in the Program panel)

/Roger
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****ing AWESOME!... That's exactly why sometimes boards like this are much more helpful then any manuals and tutorials!

Don't get me wrong, I study tutorials a lot. But sometimes you just stuck. THANX BRO
 
The standard method of doing this in ANY NLE is to load the clip into the Source Monitor, set your IN/Out points there, then add to the sequence using either Insert or Overlay.
 
For editing in the Timeline, you can also open a Trim Monitor. That will show you the detail of each point where you already have cuts.

I remember reading a piece on fast workflow from the Timeline, but can't remember where.

Basically, you have the JKL keys, of course. You also have the IO keys right above - In and Out. There are also the Insert and Overlay edit keys - , and . - right below.

I forget teh keys for previous & next transition. I assume the arrows?

There was a bit more to it than that.

You can also do your editing quickly with each clip in the Source monitor. Play, hit I, play, hit O, then , to add to Timeline. Clear I and O, play to next I, etc. The cuts will go in order to the timeline without ever putting the excess material there. Kind of like editing the Timeline the way you mentioned, but right in the Source monitor.

You can also add default transitions automatically when you Insert from the Source monitor.


Once you haver all of your cuts in, you can use the Trim monitoir on the Timeline to clean up cuts and adjust transitions - with +- 1 frame, 5 frames, etc.

I have been going the the Adobe Premietre Classroom in a Book. Not sure if the fast method was from there?

Have fun!

Michael
 
Jim Simon said:
The standard method of doing this in ANY NLE is to load the clip into the Source Monitor, set your IN/Out points there, then add to the sequence using either Insert or Overlay.
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While this is correct, there are plenty of times when this won't work.

Imagine an hour long 2-camera IV shot on DSLR's (so no matching timecode, and multiple clips in 12 min segmants) with seperately recorded audio. All of this will need to be synced up on a timeline, from which point there are 2 logical ways to edit the material, depending on your requirements: sync the whole IV up in your main timeline, and ripple delete the parts you don't want using the "I, O, Extract" method, or put the whole IV on it's own timeline, then use "I, O, Lift" and paste it into you main timeline.
 
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