Movie Theatres For Adults, It's About Time!!

David G. Smith

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Here is an article from the NYTs today:
All I have to say is, it is about time, I can't wait 'til they build one here.

August 17, 2005

Liked the Movie, Loved the Megaplex
By BRUCE WEBER

BOCA RATON, Fla. - It was Saturday night at the Palace 20, a huge megaplex here designed in an ornate, Mediterranean style and suggesting the ambience of a Las Vegas hotel. Moviegoers by the hundreds were keeping the valet parkers busy, pulling into the porte-cochere beneath the enormous chandelier-style lamps. Entering the capacious lobby, some of them dropped off their small children in a supervised playroom and proceeded to a vast concession stand for a quick meal of pizza or popcorn shrimp before the show.

Others, who had arrived early for their screening of, say, "Wedding Crashers" or "The Dukes of Hazzard" - their reserved-seat tickets, ordered online and printed out at home, in hand - entered through a separate door. They paid $18 - twice the regular ticket price (though it included free popcorn and valet service) - and took an escalator upstairs to the bar and restaurant, where the monkfish was excellent and no one under 21 was allowed.

Those who didn't want a whole dinner, or arrived too late for a sit-down meal, lined up at the special concession stand, where the menu included shrimp cocktail and sushi and half bottles of white zinfandel and pinot noir. As it got close to curtain time, they took their food and drink into one of the adjoining six theater balconies, all with plush wide seats and small tables with sunken cup holders. During the film, the most irritating sound was the clink of ice in real glasses.

Not your image of moviegoing? Pretty soon it might be. At a time when movie attendance is flagging, when home entertainment is offering increasing competition and when the largest theater chains - Regal Entertainment, AMC Entertainment (which has recently announced a merger with Loews Cineplex) and Cinemark - are focused on shifting from film to digital projection, a handful of smaller companies with names like Muvico Theaters, Rave Motion Pictures and National Amusements are busy rethinking what it means to go to the movie theater.

The Palace, which was opened five years ago by Muvico, a chain of distinctive megaplex theaters based in South Florida, remains pretty close to the gold standard, in terms of customer amenities in first-run theaters. But the competition is growing. In the age of the megaplex, after all, said Hamid Hashemi, Muvico's president, everyone gets pretty much the same movies and pretty much the same quality prints. "So what makes someone pass up one location and go to another one?" he added. "It's how you package the experience."

In other words, you have to offer more than a movie.

"It's the folks who create a compelling value proposition for consumers who will be the survivors in our business," said Paul Glantz, whose company, Emagine Entertainment, runs three megaplex theaters in Michigan, all featuring full bars and allowing customers to take their drinks to their seats.

"In my book, the Muvicos and Raves of the world represent the future of moviegoing in this country," said Mr. Glantz, who added unabashedly that the liquor license saved his business. "They're giving people a real reason to leave their home and be entertained."

Certainly, movie theaters have been experimenting with amenities since the advent of air-conditioning. ("It's cool inside!") But since 1995, when AMC opened the first megaplex, the 24-screen Grand in Dallas, the movie landscape has been reconfigured. And for the larger chains, the sheer size of the enterprise - Regal now has nearly 600 theaters in 40 states housing more than 6,600 screens - mitigates against chainwide service innovations. Some conveniences have been tried and kept: rewards programs for frequent moviegoers, for example. But experiments with restaurants and lounges have been largely discarded as inconsistent with what Dick Westerling, a Regal spokesman, calls "the core business," meaning the showing of movies.

Thus, the improvements Regal and AMC and the other behemoths have concentrated on involve the viewing experience: digital sound, stadium seating and armrest cup holders. And though most of them have tried regional, luxury and specialty items at the concession stands, too, as John Fithian, president of the National Association of Theater Owners, put it, "We've experimented and experimented, and people basically want popcorn and soda and candy."

"They go to the movies to escape their houses," Mr. Fithian continued, "and they like to escape their healthy diets, too."

So the tinkering in terms of customer service has been mostly in the hands of small theater owners.
 
2nd part of the article:

The first first-run theater to offer alcohol was the Commodore, a one-screen palace in Portsmouth, Va. And according to In Focus, a trade magazine published by the theater owners association, by 1997 only 14 theaters allowed patrons to drink, either in the lobby or their seats. At the beginning of this year, the magazine said, the number was 270, most operated by independent owners or small chains. Places like the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin, Tex., and two small chains in northern New England, Chunky's and Smitty's, seat customers at tables and offer different versions of dinner and a movie.

The megaplexes run by Rave, the Texas-based chain, feature state-of-the-art video arcades. Pacific Theaters in California is especially proud of the ArcLight in Hollywood, a state-of-the-art multiplex with reserved seating, a cafe bar and screenings restricted to adults 21 and older, not to mention high-end concessions and ushers who will actually urge chatterbox patrons to pipe down.

The Massachusetts-based National Amusements, which runs 86 theaters in the United States, mostly in the East, has built two new theaters under a new brand name, the Bridge. Located in Philadelphia and Los Angeles, they include a bar and lounge and a limited-menu restaurant (though the theaters are not yet licensed for customers to bring alcohol into the auditoriums), as well as other amenities like a reading room, a concierge desk to help with post-movie dinner reservations and taxis, and live entertainment in the lobby.

"They create what I call an upscale moviegoing experience for the masses," said Shari Redstone, the president of National Amusements. Some of these amenities, including the bar and a lobby pianist, are included at many of the company's other theaters, in a package called Cinema De Lux, which will be offered, Ms. Redstone said, in every theater the company builds from now on.

Like most chains, National Amusements is tinkering with its concessions menu; Ms. Redstone seemed especially excited about a new item on the menu, baby carrots, to be served with ranch dressing for patrons who aren't so interested in the tub-of-popcorn, tureen-of-Coke convention.

She has also started special programs, like classic old movies for seniors, and alternative entertainment, like live comedy and sporting events, for instance, showing Red Sox games on the big screen in their New England theaters, and serving beer and hot dogs.

"What I'm really trying to become is a community center," Ms. Redstone said. "The exciting part is that we're reinventing our business by giving people more reasons to go to our buildings."

But Muvico may be the most ambitious of them all. Muvico theaters are huge and, melding the throwback idea of the glamorous movie palace to the contemporary fixation on theme parks, all designed according to grandiose themes; the 1950's, for example, or ancient Egypt. Between 50,000 and 60,000 moviegoers a week pass through the 4,600-seat Paradise 24, visible from I-75 in Davie, Fla., which was constructed to look like an ancient Egyptian temple, columns and decorative hieroglyphics included. The Palace is a homage to the faux-Mediterranean designs of the architect Addison Mizner, who more or less built Boca Raton.

But what is even more distinct about them is that they do not disdain an audience that many theaters already seem to have dismissed - adults who have adult predilections. Muvico theaters offer ways - for a price, of course - for moviegoers to escape the crying babies, giggling teenagers, rude patrons, cellphones and inferior food that keep many people from venturing to the theater.

"Even without the popcorn, it's definitely worth the money," said David Raphael , a salesman from Boca Raton who, with his wife, Judy, was enjoying a glass of wine at the upstairs bar at the Palace before a screening of "Wedding Crashers." "We pretty much go here whenever we go to the movies. And we pass other theaters to get here."

None of this, of course, changes the fact that Hollywood movies seem to skew younger and younger every year.

"We're a product-driven business, and we don't have any control over the product, unfortunately," Mr. Hashemi said. "But in all our customer surveys, the unifying factor is: 'Get us away from the kids.' It's the exact opposite of what we're led to believe in this business."

There are 12 Muvico megaplexes now, in Tennessee and Maryland as well as Florida, all with expanded concessions and professional child supervision, some with full bars. Six other theaters are in varying stages of construction, including a 26-screen mega-megaplex reprising the Egyptian theme that is scheduled to open in 2006 or 2007 adjacent to the Meadowlands Sports Complex in New Jersey and will include a 400-seat bar and restaurant, a rooftop terrace, complete with an outdoor screen, and a helipad to facilitate V.I.P. access.

Asked if he had ambitions to go nationwide with Muvico theaters, Mr. Hashemi did everything but say yes. The company is negotiating in Chicago, he said, and exploring in Los Angeles.

And Manhattan? "If the real estate is there, we'll be there," he predicted. In the meantime, he said, they believe they can be profitable in markets with populations of 600,000 or more within a 20-minute drive of the theater. "We can build two buildings in each of the top 50 markets in the country," he said.

After a pause, Mr. Hashemi was asked if the spread of theaters with adult luxuries might eventually result in more movies aimed at adults. He laughed. "I don't think we could ever build them fast enough," he said.



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David G. Smith,

Thanks for sharing this article. These Muvico-style theaters sound like a great alternative! Even as a young scrubber I was never the kind to disrupt others' experience while movies were playing, not even during the trailers.

I don't know if it's always been that way, I haven't been around long enough I guess, but the theaters seem to be a great outlet for idiots. Punks running around, making noise, not to mention when people bring babies (get a sitter!). People talking during shows (stay home and talk all you want in your living room!). People answering and talking on their cell phones during the movie (die!).

Anyhow, the high price and the 21+ age should limit some of this so I think it's great! Not something I could do every week, but would be good for my highest anticipated movies of the year.
 
The theaters just need a guy standing in the back with a shotgun. Blast one or two obnoxious folks, and the rest will get the idea and shut the uck fup.

Dan
 
the-lyons-den.com said:
David G. Smith,

Thanks for sharing this article. These Muvico-style theaters sound like a great alternative! Even as a young scrubber I was never the kind to disrupt others' experience while movies were playing, not even during the trailers.

I don't know if it's always been that way, I haven't been around long enough I guess, but the theaters seem to be a great outlet for idiots. Punks running around, making noise, not to mention when people bring babies (get a sitter!). People talking during shows (stay home and talk all you want in your living room!). People answering and talking on their cell phones during the movie (die!).

Anyhow, the high price and the 21+ age should limit some of this so I think it's great! Not something I could do every week, but would be good for my highest anticipated movies of the year.

This is why I stay home.

This is probably why a lot of people stay home.

And this goes a long way to explaining the slump in box office receipts. Not entirely, but a long way.
 
I do have some reservations about the prices. However, I do love the thought of being able to get a drink, eat and watch a movie. If it's a night out, why not have one destination.

Here we have a "Cinema Cafe" that allows that and it is a very cool. On the downside is that it is locally owned and seem to be under capitalized. The projection and sound system have seen better days. However the chow is good and the beer is cold. It makes for a good way to check out a flick.
 
I would gladly pay that, and more, to not have to go to a theater that admits folks under 21. Every reason that article lists for why people don't go to the theater applies to me. The exception are a couple of smaller theaters tucked away in parts of CT (including one art house theater) which do not get the type of annoying crowds that ruin movies for me.

And please, would somebody please explain to me why some people feel a need to talk to the characters on the screen? I hate any talking during a movie, in fact I prefer an audience that does not react at all, so that I can just lose myself in the movie. But why on gods earth would anyone talk to the screen????? I don't care how good a movie is, when that happens I just get up and leave.

Matt
 
I too would glady kick down for the 'must see films'. Like David, I stay home these days because of these ass-monkey children who were raised in barns by idiots (I do have a way with words).

I would like this atmosphere.
 
No kids and plenty of alcohol? Just get rid of the old people who constantly ask the person sitting next to them what was just said and I'm there.:beer:
 
def. a good idea, also I suggest trying to find a small theatre and go late obviously this curtails some of the idiots, have one near my house that is dead after 10pm weekday and weekends everytime I've gone w/ my girlfriend we have been the only ones plus or minus a few other adults in the theatre.
 
Of course the dream situation is to have a cool theatre with good chow, drinks and a great ambiance and be able to see really good movies. I would love if these kinda places could reshape the business model so that films like "November", "2046" or what ever, could be showcased to larger audiences.
 
I used to live down there, saw chronicles of riddick in muvico actually. Its fantastic, sadly its only in like 3 or 4 screens that you have the option. The food there was very good, and yeah you can have drinks in the theater which is great. Theres also like 2 or 3 ushers that keep people in line, tho most people are there for the same reason, to get away from riffraff. Also, its limited availability. You don't sit in chairs, you sit in these plush oversize high back loveseat type things that are very comfortable.

I live in jacksonville now and let me tell you if we had a muvico here, I'd be there each, and every, single, weekend.
 
I just wish they would start making movies for adults.

Ye' Gods, I am tired or Hollywood catering the the 13-18 year old crowd.


YES, I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES DEMOGRAPHICALLY SPENDING THE MOST MONEY BUT I WANT ADULT ORIENTED FLICKS ONCE IN A FRIGGIN WHILE!


George Lucas, you're a whore.




EDIT: Hey lucidz, great sig.
 
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