Movi v Defy v BeSteady v Rock-Steadi - Are there others? What's the difference?

@dustylense - what cam(s) are you using on your G5? We're adding an FS700 and 5D in a couple of weeks. So trying to determine usability of flying either of these on a G5 totally handheld. Or do we need to plan on investing in an easyrig?
 
Filthy said:
@dustylense - what cam(s) are you using on your G5? We're adding an FS700 and 5D in a couple of weeks. So trying to determine usability of flying either of these on a G5 totally handheld. Or do we need to plan on investing in an easyrig?
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C100, RX10, 5d's
An easyrig would help.
 
dustylense - What do you think about the G5 overall exprience.
Does it shake in any angle? is it easy to setup? built quality? etc...

Or anybody else that used the Defy

Amos
 
Aloha Filthy,

Some great shots in your video!

If you are heading towards a G5 w/FS700, and EasyRig would be a big help in saving your muscles, and extend the length of time you can work by hours.

Keep in mind, you'll need the longest EasyRig extension (9") so you can move the rig in front of your body. As for the shock absorber strength, it will vary depending on your configuration, and what accessories you are powering on-board.

In the interest of full disclosure, my company is a DEFY/EasyRig dealer and stocks the most appropriate EasyRigs/accessories/components for the G5 (and forthcoming G10). I've spent a good deal of time with the G2 and G5 and can probably answer any questions you may have.

Many years ago I lived about a 5-minutes drive from Ho'okipa, you ever take a kiteboard out there?
 
amosrafaeli said:
dustylense - What do you think about the G5 overall exprience.
Does it shake in any angle? is it easy to setup? built quality? etc...

Or anybody else that used the Defy

Amos
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No shake for at least 180-degrees vertical with a G5, far beyond anything I've tried except an M10. Obviously I'm biased, but I believe you're hard pressed to find a better conceived or constructed handheld gimbal. It's a big part if the reason I'm working with Defy.
 
Filthy said:
Just thought I'd share a few shots from the DEFY G2 I got recently. Pretty straightforward setup and quick to balance. Feels easier to get immediate gratification from it vs. a steadycam setup which takes real skill, patience and experience. Still practicing and figuring out proper technique for different shots. Used it on a couple of jobs already and clients were pleased. Gotta say that customer service from DEFY crew was top notch in my personal experience. They were always stoked to help out and answer any questions I had. And even sent over multiple personalized video tutorials to assist in getting up and running quickly. That level of service is huge in my book.
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All I see are a ton of weird looking "surveillence camera" type pans/moves. This is pretty far from stedicam to say the least.
 
Shoots56 said:
All I see are a ton of weird looking "surveillence camera" type pans/moves. This is pretty far from stedicam to say the least.
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+1

Really until you actually try and operate shots (to marks/with story/with intent/with plan/with grace) we cant actually see what you are trying to do or if it was achieved.

There is a pan up looking at a kite from OTS of a man, the kite ends up out of the roof frame and the man is kind of half in half out - there is no functional framing happening here.

Girl walking - worst headroom ever, ect. ect.

S
 
Thanks for the feedback guys! All points noted. If it wasn't clear already, this was a first go at it with mostly test shots and a couple from paid work. Never claimed it be anything near steadicam. My personal experience with those setups is limited to a few times. Was really just comparing ease of use and shorter setup times. Much more time is needed to get truly proficient at it (like anything else).

@Illya - Thanks for the info on the EasyRig. Is the 2.5 the model that best suits the G5 (using the longest 9" extension)? And yes, we ride up and Lanes mostly and sometimes Ho'okipa. Happen to live about 10 minutes up the hill from there.
 
Just letting you know, having used the defy on a GH2 and watched a lot of these videos.. still doesn't replace a steadicam. Useful for many shots but.. well you'll see when you get one.
 
Last week we used our new Porta Head 5 system for the first time with the cablecam and the brushless gimbal brought another improvement into the stabilization together with the kenyon gyro I used before. I edited some footage and making-of-material from the shooting with the cablecam. The camera used was a Canon 5D Mark 3 in RAW modus. Focal length mainly used was 50 mm, some shots used 35 mm and up to 85 mm.

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Best regards,
Andreas Kielb

www.portahead.de
 
Thanks for sharing. How is the pan/tilt control? Are you happy with it? It seems the framing of some of the shots wasn't what it could be.
 
Paul F said:
Thanks for sharing. How is the pan/tilt control? Are you happy with it? It seems the framing of some of the shots wasn't what it could be.
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The control is actually very smooth and accurate but probably it's that I did set the expo to high in the software. I also noticed during the shooting that the control was not direct enough for the longer focal lengths we used. Most of the shots where 50 mm, one was 35 mm and the runs parallel to the zombies 85 mm.

The expo function is that the speed is slower for small joystick movements and gets faster with a bigger movement of the joystick.
 
Yes, it was the parallel shots I was referring to. The longer lens on that type of control must be difficult. I don't like that type of joystick control, but that's really the only reasonable way to do it. So its something that has to be dealt with.

Cool stuff.
 
Has anyone seen a comprehensive DIY tutorial here or on the web? I´d be especially interested in a parts list obviously. Thanks!
 
I've not found a comprehensive forum. I've done a lot of reading on the rc helicopter forums, which have lots of discussions on building 3 axis gimbals. I haven't looked in the last 4 months. there are lots of threads and one can get a good idea of what to do, but when it comes to understanding which electronics and which motors will handle a specific weight, I haven't found a nicely laid out set of specs and parts lists. I recommend going to the RC Helicopter sites forums. You will see a large number of threads on builds with lots of detail. But finding something that fits your specific needs will be a bit of work.


diydrones.com
 
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