Monitor for color correction

Jason_H

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Hey,

I've recently purchased some video equipment from EVS and will be out shooting early next week. I still have a few items to buy wireless mic, mattebox, etc.

Both of those items seem to be covered in this forum. The one item I am looking for some insight into is a monitor for color correction. Anybody care to share what they are currenlty using? I have been looking into the Toshiba 14" Flat Screen TV myself.

Any other television monitors recommended? Thanx

Cheers
Jason
 
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If you're going to do color correction you need an accurate monitor that can be calibrated. A TV really won't cut it. I'd suggest looking into a Sony studio or production monitor.
 
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Thanks I'll have to research and look into some production monitors. Any idea what the average price range would be?

Jason
 
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Well, they're not cheap. A 13" PVM series is over $1000. I wouldn't get anything smaller than this and it should include a blue-only switch. Search B&H's site.
 
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go on ebay. they have tons of em for sale. i managed to get my loaded 13" sony for a fraction of the new cost. Broadcast studios and universities are always getting rid of stuff. make sure they have such features as Blue Only, underscan, etc etc. and no screen burns
 
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Thanks Dan! That's great advice I have had pretty good experiences with ebay so I'll look into it.

I will be fairly knew to this. I am starting out in wedding videography and then working with a few guys to produce a 3d/live action short so I want to do this right. Thanks again.

Cheers
jason
 
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There is no substitute for an actual production monitor. That's indisputable. You should fork over the cash and go that route.

But the 14" Toshiba flatscreen is a damn good TV. Just felt that needed to be said.
 
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I have the same Toshiba rigged up as a client proofing monitor in my studio. Granted it is not as sharp as the production monitors, but come on, flat screen, component input, 16:9, and built-in speakers...for $140... ;D I love it. JVC discountinued a great little 13" Production monitor, the TM-H1375SU, which sold for around $400. I would keep an eye out for a replacement, too.
 
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It beats the crap out of every other TV in my house, even the much bigger ones (except, of course, the HDTV). Better TV for the $$$? No way. I use it extensively.
 
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be careful on ebay. the tubes can wear out on these things. make sure you get it from someone reputable who can vouch for its condition.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I will be looking into the local University and local news outlet to see if they have anything they are looking to get rid of.

So just to be sure. Even if I don't plan on getting to actual independant film making and am focusing more on wedding videography and dvd authoring a production monitor is something I should not be without?

Appreciate the comments. Still looking into ebay not much there.

Cheers
Jason
 
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that really depends completely on how discerning you want to be.. a tv would would fine, and the monitor would work alot better. if you get good results that your very happy with from tthe tv. then why switch. but if you need somthing more, to really get down to the pixel and seriously tweak it out, then get the monitor. personnaly i would say to get the monitor, cause you never know what the future holds.
 
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Ebay monitors are typically "used up".  I watched a cinematographer here go through the gyrations of trying to get a usable monitor off ebay, a Sony 1354Q, it took him four tries, four bad monitors, before he finally got one he could live with.

I love ebay, I've bought tons of stuff there and sold almost as much there, but a monitor is not the right thing to get off ebay.

Rush at EVS sells the Panasonic 1390 for $1130 or so.  That's the way to go, if you can swing it.  For mission-critical work, you need a monitor with SMPTE-C phosphors, and that Panasonic is about the lowest-priced SMPTE-C unit at a decent size.

For wedding work, I've never heard of someone using a monitor in the field.  You could still benefit by having one in your post suite, and definitely for DVD post-production work, but I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about portability, etc -- i.e., don't bother looking at the 8045Q with battery power.  Just get a good monitor with 700+ lines of res, blue-only gun, overscan/underscan, 16:9/4:3 switchable, and SMPTE-C phosphors, from a reputable manufacturer (Sony, Panasonic, Ikegami, etc).
 
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I'm curious why all the field monitors I see are 4:3 screens since so many people are shooting 16:9. I know they're switchable, but a 16:9 native screen would be lighter to haul around.
 
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Because we live in a 4:3 world. 98% of the televisions in the US are 4:3 (although in the UK there's a much higher percentage of 16:9).

There are very few 16:9 tubes even made. Most of the HD sets out there are projection sets, aren't they?

People are interested in shooting 16:9, but in America at least, it's still a 4:3 game.
 
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I'd love a 16:9 television. I'd love an HD one as well.

I'd also like a Lear jet.
 
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Hey Jason. Look into The Broadcast Store. They have great used gear at good prices. They have tech guys there too who QC everything berfore it leaves. Plus they have a 30 day return policy. I know there are 2 stores, one in NYC and another in LA. I bought a 13" PVM 1351Q for $475.00 and it works great.

Steve
 
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Well look at who it is.... Jason_H...good to see you here boy.
Welcome to DVXuser land.
You should see about going to NAB...see the cafe for info.
I also have some ebay monitor links but they are at the office...I will get then to you.

T
 
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Hey Taylor how's it going. It looks like I have been given a lot of great leads to look into. Thanks steve for the suggestion. There seems to be a lot of options out there and I'm sure that I'll find something that fits my budget. Appreciate the help. My dvx should be in my hands on Tuesday and I can't wait to start shooting. Take it easy guys.

Cheers
Jason
 
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