Mixing Footage

TimurCivan

TimurCivan

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I got involved in a shoot next year, a feature length indie. and the director/writer/producer wants to use me and my soon to be dvx with an Xl1. How does the footage match up? is there a descernible difference between the looks? that limits the use of 24P right you cant really have 30P mixed with 24P, that would look funny.

anythoughts?
 
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First, the XL1 does not do 30p.

You'll never get them to match, particularly if you use 24p with the DVX. Now, you can use the differences to artistic effect, but if you're looking for a uniform look throughout the movie, it's probably not going to happen.
 
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xl1 doesnt do progressive???? i thought it did. i dont have one so i dont know.

but yea the director wants a uniform look i think. i should le her know.
thanks david
 
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hey look check it out, in the B&H Prosumer video catalogue it says and i quote

"Frame movie mode: With normal movie mode , video is captured using interlaced frames. In frame movie mode, video is captured in a non interlaced form at 30 frames per second. Thsi delivers spectacular clarity, perfect for thoes who need to grab high quality still images..... Thsi non interlaced method is acknowledged by users for its scinematic appearence"

un less maybe this isnt true Progressive... or its only on the Xl1s. im not sure what the other camera person in shooting.

I'm really not out to like prove you wrong david, i just was confused by your statement. im not sure if progressive includes additional technichal elements that makes it progressive, as opposed to jsut de interlaced.
 
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..unfortunately, "progressive" implies that the image was captured and processed progressively. .. you cant just deinterlace or otherwise process something and then call it progressive. thats like putting a lamborghini body kit on a fiero and calling it a lamborghini. it may look like one when your done, but its not. it doesnt have the higher resolution or same motion rendition .. its got nothing under the hood. which is why they termed it "frame movie mode". they wouldnt make up a generic label like that if they could simply call it the respected and sought after title and process of being "progressive".
 
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understood. sneaky bastards they are canon.......

(although i LOVE my canon AE-1P SLR w/ 1.4 50mm lens... sexy.)
 
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Hi there,

I just shot a 1 hour tv special on both those cameras together (DVX100a and an XL1). DVX was 24p (not "advanced" mode for it was going to Television) and the XL1 was 60i. The look of the 2 camers were very different in raw footage form, but post is what made it all come together. In Final Cut Pro I did extensive colour correcting - on both cameras (3 way color corrector) in order to get the look I wanted. For the XL1, I applied Graeme Nattress' filters (to convert the 60i to 24p) and colour corrected to match the DVX. I'd tell you which of the Nattress filters and settings, but my other competer that its on is in the middle of a 30 hour render. Anyways, the XL1 footage looked great. It is still different from the DVX and I like the DVX footage better, but intercut in the same scene people don't even notice (I do though). Bottom line, braodcasters loved the show and nobody ever questioned the mixed footage. Personally, I do a lot of shooting with a mixture of looks. I like it. And if used properly it can add in interesting quality thats a little ragged and pops with energy - just the way life should be.

Good luck,
Dale
 
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You definitely need to do tests and make shure you shoot 60i if you use the Nattress filters. 30p won't convert properly.
 
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