Mixer for Production

the price is not only per preamp or ,,,
there is development involved and the number of units which would be sold
if every Yamaha person was buying the sd , the price was going down by 60-70%, but since they dont , the rest of us eat ****
you might be rethink after you check how much is the sqn for 5 channels ( 2950 qweed:-), thats 900 per channel
the cooper 208 is with digital outs is 2000$ per channel ,
the sanosax is almost 3 k per channel
so - for our work the sd is quit cheap

the Mackie could be hooked directly to 12 v with new power supply -
Dave can point you to the shop in La which does it , but this thing cost another grand - does it justifies it - yes and no - so
not every pees of gear is good for every one -
 
I am going for the yamaha MG10/2 Stereo Mixer since it is only $99 and free shipping and I think it will be a good tool to learn with... Right?? and it will do what I need it to for the budget and equipment I have.
 
if there's nothing magic in the electronics of SD mixers, i think i'm gonna try and fabricate one. sounds like the high prices are a function of supply and demand and nothing else.
sorry, i just find this a wierd dichotomy.
 
There is absolutely something spectacular about the Sound Devices mixers. Very clean preamps, all the features you need for ENG use all in a compact, rugged design. Rent one for yourself. I have a 302 and am amazed everytime I use it.

If you don't do field or ENG work and have access to AC power, buy a Mackie. SD mixers are definitely not about hype.
 
if you think you can build a 302 clone brian, please do let me know if you succeed. Sound devices would freak, but personally i dont know how easy that would be to do...
 
brianluce said:
if there's nothing magic in the electronics of SD mixers, i think i'm gonna try and fabricate one. sounds like the high prices are a function of supply and demand and nothing else.
sorry, i just find this a wierd dichotomy.
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Well, good analog audio equipment ain't easy! I mean, sure, give it a try, but quality of materials and solder joints, exact layout of circuit boards, quality of components, etc. all play a large role. Have to deal with lots of noise issues, and all kinds of impedance and frequency-dependent effects... the SD units are good. The magic is in the craftsmanship, and the unit is specialized for its target applications. If you're on a tight budget, you can use a mackieish/yamahaish mixer and some workarounds; if you can afford it, you can use the SDs with more convenience.
 
darst said:
I am going for the yamaha MG10/2 Stereo Mixer since it is only $99 and free shipping and I think it will be a good tool to learn with... Right?? and it will do what I need it to for the budget and equipment I have.
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Good choice; it should serve you well. For a low investment it'll cover you for today, and help you understand what you may want in the future... and will always be useful even later if you need to mix more channels.

It also has a nice mic-stand mount that may be handy!
 
i think ullanta summed up the whole construction argument pretty well in that last thread....

yeah, sure, maybe those SD units ARE overpriced because of market sizes. but lets be realistic. everyone here wants one.. and most of us have or will end up buying one because they work so damn well.
 
i just love my sound devices 302 and my new toy the 722.

there is just a real quality thing with the sound devices stuff.

from the first time you pick it up to every time you turn it on and use it. the features are there, its built amazingly well and everything is just right where you want it and easy to use.

even more so with the 722. with the lcd screen you can do more things through a menu vs the 302's method of using the led as a feedback to what options are set and how.

i'm probably going to get one of the mackie universal controllers to use with adobe audition on my home setup.

just finishing building a new house and i got a little carried away with my edit room. i put in 5.1 surround with polk speakers in the wall and conduit in the walls so i can run all the wire i want and never have to see a cable except between things on the desk.

i even have a half wall in front of my desk with some of the power outlets going to a huge APC rack mount ups that is behind the wall next to the desk.

matthew
 
Having build a couple of mixers from scratch and one or two preamps I can tell you I have most of the parts and access to a machine shop and I bought a MixPre. How much is your time worth? And by the way the transformers in the mixpre are pretty pricey. Anyway go for it but if it were easy I would have done it myself.




brianluce said:
if there's nothing magic in the electronics of SD mixers, i think i'm gonna try and fabricate one. sounds like the high prices are a function of supply and demand and nothing else.
sorry, i just find this a wierd dichotomy.
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matthew, im also about to grab a control universal as well as a mackie big knob. those things are super cool... your new room sounds awesome... post some pics sometime!
 
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