I completely disagree. Human society has always been crass and vulgar. We just have an improved communications medium now.
Maybe I'm just getting old.
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I completely disagree. Human society has always been crass and vulgar. We just have an improved communications medium now.
Help if you were more explicit, so I'll do the work for you:
http://sproutvideo.com/
Plans of $10, $25, $250, and $750 per month. There's a limit to how much you can upload depending on what plan you pick AND how much people can watch before you're charged overages for bandwidth.
http://www.brightcove.com/
$5 per month per video that you have hosted on the site. I have 62 videos hosted by Vimeo at the moment. That would cost me $310 per month to host them here.
http://www.viddler.com/
Plans of $50, $100, and then "custom pricing" per month.
I think I'll deal with some exhibitionist douchebag that may or may not ever cross my eyes without the explicit instructions by someone on how to find him to stick with what is, by far, an excellent deal.
Chris Santucci
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As mentioned, I have contacted them - multiple times. And I had flagged the video - that was the first thing I did.
From the Help forum:
"Non sexual nudity is allowed on Vimeo. That being said, in the future, please click the 'flag this video' link underneath the video to report it instead of posting in the forums. Thanks Chris!"
From Vimeo Support (Cameron D, Content + Community Apprentice):
"Unfortunately, this does actually fit the "non-sexual nudity" bill. It was not deemed sexually explicit, and until we develop an Adult filter, this will remain on the site. We do our best to keep it out of things like Discover so that it doesn't pop up without a related search, but we can't always get to it the minute it was uploaded."
"It would only show up in your Feed if someone you follow liked it, and we have limited support checking up on the Discover tab on weekends. These videos occupy a grey area, for sure, but we allow nudity on the site. He was not doing anything we deemed sexual. I'm sorry you were offended."
gonzo_entertainment
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Disagree.
We USED to teach children there is a way to behave/speak in your home and a way to behave/speak in public. There was also a time when the public airwaves, billboards, public spaces in general (which the internet would fall into) were expected to be PG at worst unless you actively chose to pass through a gate into a non-PG space. The idea that a child could hear the worst type of profanity in a public space (restaurant, store, etc...) would have completely shocked and appalled people 25 or 30 years ago. Saying the "F word" where it could be heard by people around you in a store (for example) would have gotten you instantly thrown out into the street and told to never return.
The move away from that world is NOT a totally positive thing.
Chris Santucci
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I need a simple option that ensures playability and embedding and I do not want to get into the intricacies of encoding and flash, etc.
This is what's important to me that SproutVideo claims to provide:
"We use a content distribution network to ensure the best video playback possible. We use servers around the world so that no matter where your viewers are, they'll get the best possible performance."
"Our player supports just about any device that supports HTML5 video including the iPhone, iPad, and most Android devices."
"If your source videos are HD, they will be encoded in brilliant HD quality so they look just as good on the web as they did when you made them."
Chris, yes you are getting old, and in this case you're getting wise. I hope Vimeo realizes how incredible their site was before all the 'fashion' videos.
On a separate note to those who think it's no big deal, if you find yourself clicking, and clicking, and clicking, and scrubbing, and clicking... just be aware that porn can be an addiction and has ruined many many peoples' lives. Nearly ruined mine. I know this isn't the place or the topic, but hey I felt inspired.
SJ
www.scottjfilms.com
On a separate note to those who think it's no big deal, if you find yourself clicking, and clicking, and clicking, and scrubbing, and clicking... just be aware that porn can be an addiction and has ruined many many peoples' lives. Nearly ruined mine. I know this isn't the place or the topic, but hey I felt inspired.
SJ
www.scottjfilms.com
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Chris Santucci
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Because if I have my "A-list" video embedded on my website but I want someone to see the other stuff I have on Vimeo, I then say "Go to Vimeo, I have more work on there." Yeah, I could just send someone links, but it doesn't always go down like that.
At this point I have a profound philosophical issue with Vimeo's approach that outweighs their benefits to me. I would gladly pay 10 bucks a month for a platform with similar features if it meant I could avoid them completely.
I do not like their lackadaisical attitude about that being publicly hosted on Vimeo.
David Parsons
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Vimeo: "He was not doing anything we deemed sexual..." I've watched the video in question and was surprised that it was deemed all right for general viewing and can understand the poster not wanting it linked to his Vimeo channel (if that's what's happened). I wonder what Vimeo DO deem sexual.
...I'm not willing to write Vimeo off just yet, but I do think they should separate the "mature" content from the rest, like YouTube does.
I can't imagine giving a boardroom presentation of my work to a multinational, and accidentally clicking on a "dancing penis" video.
( it wouldn't be the end of world, but it would probably sink any chance of getting hired for the job )
FrameFarmMedia
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I agree. How is that stuff not considered sexual. Ejaculting is a purely sexual response.
Doc Bernard
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If you want to use either hosting services for serious work (and it's not a bad platform to use, BTW) just password protect those videos. I get dailies and footage for review all the time that way.
Share the password only with your potential clients. That keeps them hidden from the exhibitionists and trolls out there hence, no snarky comments. Unless from potential clients, LOL. But then........you probably wouldn't want them as clients anyway.
Share the password only with your potential clients. That keeps them hidden from the exhibitionists and trolls out there hence, no snarky comments. Unless from potential clients, LOL. But then........you probably wouldn't want them as clients anyway.
Jordan Scott Price
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That's not really the issue at hand, though, Doc.
Doc Bernard
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LOL, I know, but it was based on very first post.
It is. I prefer not to be catered to as though I am a child incapable of handling content that would normally go above a PG rating. I'm an adult.
Being catered to this way does not allow us to grow as a society. Sure, there's plenty of bad with allow frank discourse, but then I'd prefer not to consider the feelings of those who would much rather stick their fingers in their ears and go "Llalalala"-ing down the street.
Did I miss something? I've not seen the first official response from Vimeo on this thread.
It's not linked to his channel in any way from what I've been reading. He simply found it by accident, and is afraid he will be associated with that content if a client also happens to surf around Vimeo and comes across that or a similar video.
Chris Santucci
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I posted all three responses in the order I received them back at the #43 post.
I'm paying to use Vimeo and I'm essentially driving more customers to Vimeo just by using it not to mention contributing to their traffic. That said, I just don't want to contribute to or condone that crap existing on Vimeo in any way. I think it's egregious and I pointed it out and they said "So what?" and that really pisses me off.
Ah, okay, just missed them.
Will you be vetting any new video sharing site to make sure they are not hosting content with which you don't agree?
gonzo_entertainment
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"then I'd prefer not to consider the feelings"... That's called being a selfish a-hole (in some circles).
Nobody said YOU couldn't look at all the dancing penises you want. It's whether that dancing penis is right there where any unsuspecting person including a small child or an old lady can stumble across it with no warning, no door to consensually pass through.
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