Man on Fire (*editing question*)

Intwist

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Hello Forum,

I know you have all probably seen the movie "Man on Fire" which is why I figure asking this question might help me understand:

Ok, you know when the really cool flashy edits come in, there all over the place, some fast, some slow, but the constant visual is this "white overtone" I guess you can say that makes the edits look like the shots are being overexposed while transitioning. How is it done? I mean is there a certain effect, matte, or is it done in camera (prolly not).

I would really appreciate the help in understanding this...

Thanks,

-Intwist
 
i do it a lot. just key frames and toying with the white levels so it goes from fine on one keyframe then totally jacked up on the white level one the other keyframe. beats the heck out of a fade
 
Cool thanks for the quick reply, I'll have to mess around with it tonight hopefully I'll get good at it. I think its a great way to transition.
 
Hans, I don't know jack about keyframes, could you give me a step-by-step as to how this would be done? If it's not too much trouble. Thanks, Tim.
 
i edit on premire 1.5 and in AE 6.5

its pretty simple on any NLE

lets say u have a 10second clip
split that clip into two, i usualy just take the first 2 seconds of the clip and put the effect. -throw in a blur,contrast,brightness and whatever else u want. when u play em toghter u'll have an effect. NOw, u have to try new things to get a look, its straight forward. I used to have an issue with premire not having a dip to white preset. But somoene told me to open up my eyes..hehehe... i can get the effect i need by just using a frame that gets messed up with brighntess and contrast. :D
 
On the commentary on that DVD they talked about using a HAND CRANKED CAMERA to get those shots. I am sure editing played a big part too but they used that camera as well.
 
That's pretty cool. that was w/ the dvx? Great job. What exactly did you do?

EDIT: well, I can pretty much see what ya did, so that question is kinda stupid. Tim.
 
i do that in almost every video i make. its a good transition or somthing to go with a beat. what i dois put a color corrector on the clip, make how i want the colors to be, then use keyframes on the highlights, blacks , or mids, and just make them jump up and down.
 
That been Tony Scott's visual style for a bit...If you guys love "Man on Fire" check out the short on the BMW films site called "Beating the Devil"...Same stuff. And "Domino" if you haven't already seen either. The effects are very easy to MIMIC in post. However the I know that they are popping flash frames with the film camera, Ramping the speed and iris of the camera, and using that Arri hand crank attachment for the 435. If you know the characteristics of in camera SFX shooting with film you might have a better understand of what you actually need to do in order to achive that style in post. This similar style is also used for the labratory montages seen in the "CSI" series.
 
mediamilitia said:
That been Tony Scott's visual style for a bit...If you guys love "Man on Fire" check out the short on the BMW films site called "Beating the Devil"...Same stuff. And "Domino" if you haven't already seen either. The effects are very easy to MIMIC in post. However the I know that they are popping flash frames with the film camera, Ramping the speed and iris of the camera, and using that Arri hand crank attachment for the 435. If you know the characteristics of in camera SFX shooting with film you might have a better understand of what you actually need to do in order to achive that style in post. This similar style is also used for the labratory montages seen in the "CSI" series.
Nail on the head.

Good mimic work btw EyeBite!
 
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