Making a Dana Dolly - My Version

Paul F

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I like to fabricate so when I needed a Dana style dolly I made my own. For those of you who like to do this sort of thing, here's how I did it.

The key to the project is these wheel assemblies. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...r_gw_100_dolly_track_swivel_wheel.html?sts=pi Normally, I would buy skate wheels and bearings and fabricate these assemblies myself, but I took a shortcut and bought these. They are excellent. One of the things that Dana emphasizes is how they have their wheels specially made to be perfectly round so there is no wobble in the shot. I have a lathe so I figured I could have the wheels cut round if needed like Dana does. It turns out these wheels have under .001" run out. That means they are nearly perfectly round and won't wobble. These wheels include a thrust bearing that allows the wheels to swivel. That means you can use them on a curved track without binding.

I made the platform from a 12" x 14" piece of 1/4" aluminum flat bar (Online Metals). Buy the flat bar instead of the plate because it is cheaper. It was a simple matter of making two pocket holes with the CNC mill to form the pocket for the bowl holder.

The 100mm bowl is made from some left over 1" stock. I made it so it has a ledge that can hold a 100mm-to-75mm adapter that I already had. This way I only need one bowl holder.

The schedule 80 aluminum pipe (Online Metals) was sanded down with 80, 120, and 240 grit paper to get the dings and extrusion marks out of the pipe. That makes it nice and smooth. To keep it that way, I store the pipes in pipe insulation foam.

The pipes are held on the stands with baby pins I made on the lathe and pipe clamps from B&H.

It is buttery smooth. While the lightweight stands work if you are careful, it really needs more robust stands like the American Grip Baby Combo stand. But I just needed this for a couple of shots, so I wasn't ready to spend the money.

These wheel assemblies are nice.


The dolly


100mm bowl and adapter eliminates bulk of multiple bowls.




Using baby pins and lightweight stands is not optimal, but it's good enough for the two shots I built this for. I can always upgrade when needed.


Pack the pipes in foam insulation tubes


The kit


It all fits in a $5 bag I got from the local recycle store. I'm not a big fan of Pelican-style hard cases. I have plenty of them, but I prefer a soft case for things like this. I don't travel. A nice tight fit and less bulk than a hard case.

 
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Good job. I appreciate engineering and design. I wish I had the adult version of my Lego building skills I had as a kid.
 
Nice.

Some thoughts.

You could add more holes and also make it into a hi-hat.

Ive basicaly got rid of my hi hat as my 'dana' does the job for low static shots.

Ive made mine from a Prolyte Base Plate with a 100m hole 'fly cut' in the middle, meaning it can also be mounted on the prolyte 30cm square truss system which is exciting.

S
 
Hi-hat - good idea. Yes, this is probably phase 1 and I wonder what this will morph into. I was wondering about making a plate to allow a slider to be mounted to the dolly for two dimensional moves.
 
Very nice!

I have Dana Dolly and absolutely love it. The only issue i have is I don't own any baby stands to get the camera low. Very tricky trying to Dana Dolly whenever I have actors sitting. Any creative solutions?
 
My 'Dana' I have two 100mm bowls on my end bits so it runs between any 100mm bowl sticks.

It seems (to me) that using light stands is a poor solution.

My sticks mean I can offer the full range of heights of the sticks and setup on uneven ground

(my dana inspiration was specifically for rough terrain where I cannot run my track)

For low shots one can switch to a pair of hi-hats on boards plus wooden chocks

As an aditional element I made, and the OP might be able to do this simply, a method of swinging the bowl over so that the camera can run 'underslung'

I therefore can offer up to the DOP/director a huge different amount of lens heights.

S
 
Yes, the light stands and baby pins provide marginal support. I did it as a first pass to see what it was like as I was going for minimizing weight; I don't recommend it.

I like the tripod idea. That has a much greater range of adaptability to uneven ground over the stands with the adjustable 3rd leg. I will make a new mount to accommodate that. What did you use for 100mm balls?

... I have Dana Dolly and absolutely love it. The only issue i have is I don't own any baby stands to get the camera low. Very tricky trying to Dana Dolly whenever I have actors sitting. Any creative solutions?

Not being experienced with the dolly, I can't recommend anything, but I was planning on using apple boxes for really low shots. Of course, this can only be done on hard, level surfaces. I will look into Morgan's underslung capability.
 
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Very nice!

I have Dana Dolly and absolutely love it. The only issue i have is I don't own any baby stands to get the camera low. Very tricky trying to Dana Dolly whenever I have actors sitting. Any creative solutions?

Use full sized apple boxes to give you three different "settings", or the ground. If you're just doing simple slides, you'll be surprised how uneven the ground can be while still giving good results. Get a few wooden wedges to have just in case.
 
Yes, the light stands and baby pins provide marginal support. I did it as a first pass to see what it was like as I was going for minimizing weight; I don't recommend it.

I like the tripod idea. That has a much greater range of adaptability to uneven ground over the stands with the adjustable 3rd leg. I will make a new mount to accommodate that. What did you use for 100mm balls?



Not being experienced with the dolly, I can't recommend anything, but I was planning on using apple boxes for really low shots. Of course, this can only be done on hard, level surfaces. I will look into Morgan's underslung capability.

I have a set of these for my MYTWorks slider.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/366661-REG/Manfrotto_500BALLSH_500BALLSH_High_Hat_Adapter.html?sts=pi

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I have a product similar to the one above made by Hague. (Uk)

It has just an m10 Tap through the middle which I would suggest is far easier to work with than the tiny stub of 3/8

My bowls are attached to the cross clamps by nice m10 studding - solid - I hung a phantom over a water tank off that system a couple of days ago :)
 
Ah I need the opposite of a half bowl.

I need to put a tripod 100mm head onto a flat surface (such as a DIY Dana Dolly platform)
 
Hague make them too, as do many other people if you search 100mm bowl riser as per the ebay link above, hi hat or suchlike.
 
Iron - That ebay item looks ok. That riser will make the dolly less stable. The higher you go from the wheels, the less stable the platform will be, so it's not an ideal solution. Maybe your thinking of not using the riser part, which is a good idea.

I made the bowl on a lathe from a piece of aluminum stock. I just shaped it to my liking. It has a small surface at the very top on which a 100mm ball rests. Just below that is a small ledge on which the 75mm adapter rests. It is a tight fit so the adapter does not slop around. It's hard to see those details in the picture so here is a video about the dolly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H_duxFmvlw&feature=youtu.be
 
Ok Morgan, you are now my friend. I admire with gusto people doing sophisticated things on simple tools. That's where I started out and still operate from. Whatever it takes to fabricate. I've gotten a bit spoiled, but I still like to do things the simple way.

My lathe is not CNC, but my 40? year old Bridgeport mill is. It took me a year to take a mill that came from a secret government lab and reverse engineer what was left of a Bridgeport CNC upgrade. They left the motors and some custom circuit boards but destroyed the controller for security.
 
Iron - That ebay item looks ok. That riser will make the dolly less stable. The higher you go from the wheels, the less stable the platform will be, so it's not an ideal solution. Maybe your thinking of not using the riser part, which is a good idea.

I made the bowl on a lathe from a piece of aluminum stock. I just shaped it to my liking. It has a small surface at the very top on which a 100mm ball rests. Just below that is a small ledge on which the 75mm adapter rests. It is a tight fit so the adapter does not slop around. It's hard to see those details in the picture so here is a video about the dolly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H_duxFmvlw&feature=youtu.be

Thank you very much for the detailed video!
Might be tricky for me to easily get a custom made piece with a lathe/CNC.
So I suppose the eBay purchase makes more sense for me personally.

But you raise (ha!) a very good point that if the tripod head is raised up too high it will reduce the stability of the set up.

However, I notice that the eBay option has hex bolts at the top, so I could probably remove the riser section so as to mount the camera lower on the dana dolly.
 
Yes. If you run some long screws from the bowl to the plate and really tighten it down hard, even without any support under them, it could be quite stable. You'd have to test it.

Another option is to use the risers by cutting them flush with the bottom of the bowl and then drill and tap them and then bolt them to the plate. Not so easy if you're not into fabrication.
 
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