Make up in HD

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boke

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I've often heard that HD is so clear that you can see scars from people's plastic surgeries (don't know if thats true), how do make-up artists approach HD differently now?
 
If you record it uncompressed 4:4:4 and keep it that way It´s about half of 4K film resolution, so everything that works on film will work on HD with ample headroom.

If you sell your work to a TV station and they code it 264 and squeeze it thru a shared channel - then the "HD Ready" consumer TV throws half of the resolution away by deinterlacing and mash it up by resizing you don´t have to worry about scars or pimples.

All those workshops for "HD Makeup" is just a rip off.

Frank
 
so more or less following film style make up would pose zero problems for someone doing something on their prosumer HD cam?

Is make up that difficult? Could I learn to do my own?
 
Every idiot that can do a Peanut Butter sandwich can do basic Makeup - I did for UNZEIT (shot in HD) and it came out great.

(Doing hair is a different legue)

Most important: Get a pro grease MakeUp TV/Film palette (flesh tones) and Transparent Powder . Google for Grimas or Kryolan.

Apply the grease Make up with a sponge and than powder your talent. Et voila, basic Makeup (at least for male)

Look for Hollywood or film makeup on Youtube - there are hundrets of tutorials.

Have fun, Frank
 
Boke, my advice is to just get a trained MU artist. If you have a makeup school in your area, it's not hard to find someone willing to work for a bit for their reel. It is not as easy as watching a YouTube video and buying some grease paint. It is pretty easy to find a cosmetology or theatrical makeup student to do your makeup.

(BTW, not only is it not as easy as just doing it yourself, I wont even hire students. But for little/no money, students are your best bet.)
 
Ah, c`mon it´s not rocket science. I watched pro makeup artists for years and what they do a s a basic makeup is exactly what I said.

I´m not talking about hair do or girls glamour make up - basic makeup is just a layer of grease makeup and powder to cover imperfections and prevent shine and glare.

I agree, that having a pro or even a student on set that only focuses on that is of course a nice thing. But if you are on low/no budget or a one man band you can do it without any problems.

Frank

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You can even take you talent to the mall before the shoot and have the make up girls in Macy's do it for you. ;)
I actually did that once.
 
Ah, c`mon it´s not rocket science. I watched pro makeup artists for years and what they do a s a basic makeup is exactly what I said.
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If you think that works for you, then fine. I think your film was very good. It was one of the top rated ones for me, and I rated each film on 8 different categories. That said, if I had a "MakeUp" rating, the score for that would have brought your total down. Just saying.

There is a reason there are professional makeup artists and it's not because there are alot of "scam" schools. It's because it is a skilled art. To suggest less is degrading to one of the most important crew members on a film. When you do finally get to a point that you dont have to smear on greasepaint yourself and you actually hire a makeup artist, make sure you let them know just how useless you think they are. They'll appreciate it. If they get upset, just say "Ah, c`mon it´s not rocket science." That should put them in their place.
 
The initial question was - do you need a speciial HD makeup and I said NO, film make up is more than enough.

Next question was: Can I learn to do it?
Yes, everybody can learn almost everything.

Than I was talking of my NO-Budget production and that I think if you can not afford a makeup artist (wich I agree is great to have) you can help yourself with some basic products and tecnics, to stop glare and make faces more pleasent under 3000k spots - wich is better than nothing.

Look, I worked with hair n`makeup artis for years and I was always blown away when I saw what magic they can do when they do the whole Shbang. But if you are a one man band without money you need a Plan-B. Watching those guys for quite a while, gave me a basic idea how they apply the basic foundation and powder - and belive me, they did not use exotic and hard to learn technics in that step.

But with your critiqe on my makeup you made me thinking about it. I thought it was fine for the circumstands.
Could you go a bit deeper in detail?

Thanks, Frank
 
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