Mac OS X For PC?

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[quote author=Dakota link=board=Offtopic;num=1105974931;start=0#14 date=01/17/05 at 12:56:58]I'm curious what the hoopla is with FCP. I've played with Premiere, Avid & Vegas but have never seen FCP. Just wondering what the attraction is. What does it offer the others do not?[/quote]
I'm a Premiere guy, like yourself. When I was doing 48 hour film I had to work on someone else's FCP set up. After a night of getting to know it, I was able to do the same exact things that I was able to do in Premiere, just slightly different.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's all the same ****, just packaged differently.
 
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Does anyone here follow slashdot.org at all?

This is really old news... If I remember correctly this software never went anywhere(or is going no where)

Then again they may have started up more hype again... but CherryOS is at least a few months old..

And OSX will not run on the x86 architecture natively. Cherry OS is an emulator and will be like Virtual PC.. a slow slow painful ordeal..

Apple will not put out OSX for pc unless they sell off or get out of the hardware business.

One main issue has to with the little endian vs big endian issues...

the question arrises.. why would you want to run OSX on a PC?
 
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[quote author=Dakota link=board=Offtopic;num=1105974931;start=0#14 date=01/17/05 at 12:56:58]I'm curious what the hoopla is with FCP. I've played with Premiere, Avid & Vegas but have never seen FCP. Just wondering what the attraction is. What does it offer the others do not?[/quote]
well, Ive taken editing classes on avid... and Im still using fcp... Im just alot more efficient with fcp... but maybe thats my dual 2ghz g5 making me so fast  ;)
 
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damn yous lincolnlog and your G5!!

*shakes fist in the air

My Dual G4 gives your G5 the stink eye...


she is jealous I think..
 
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lets dispell another myth. a "comparable" PC is not half the cost of an apple by any stretch of the imagination.

Start pricing out dual G5's and dual Xeons and you'll quickly see how close their prices come.
 
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I did that. Building my own, it was $1500 v. $3000 (according to the Apple website) for a dual 3Ghz HT Xeon with comparable memory, HDD, and video card. I'll be doing this within the next few months.
 
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[quote author=David Jimerson link=board=Offtopic;num=1105974931;start=15#25 date=01/17/05 at 18:07:21]I did that.  Building my own, it was $1500 v. $3000 (according to the Apple website) for a dual 3Ghz HT Xeon with comparable memory, HDD, and video card.  I'll be doing this within the next few months.[/quote]

But does that Xeon come with at least a 10+ user lisence of OS X Server? Does it come with any software at all?
 
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Now I am realy confused, FCP is cool cause it has a much slower working pace, and gives you time to think . . . err . . . and then you would build a PC to run it on over and above all potential slow it down further giving you more time to think.

The reason why PC's work is because they are so versatile, cost effective and configurable. Most of us can afford a PC at one third of the price of a Mac that runs at 80% of the speed . . . maths. Invest the other two thirds of the money and build a beast like Jimmersons . . . I would love to know more of that.

You cant run naitive FCP, or can you, but in any case there are a host of other programmes that now are available, DV rack, 3DS Max being one of the ones I cant do without. Practicaly anything can be accieved with some skill and pocket money on a PC . . . even make it work like a Mac . . . or not. Now I am confused ;)
 
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[quote author=SkiUtah link=board=Offtopic;num=1105974931;start=15#26 date=01/17/05 at 18:56:06]

But does that Xeon come with at least a 10+ user lisence of OS X Server?  Does it come with any software at all?[/quote]

$100 gets an OEM version of XP Pro.  Other than that, I don't WANT most of the crap that comes pre-installed on a computer.

Besides, I don't NEED it because I already HAVE it. All I need to do is swap my system drive into the new machine and make the adjustments when it recognizes all the new hardware.
 
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Personally, I'd love to run OS X just because I like the feel of a mac better, but I know my way around a PC much better, and I feel I could get more work done on it, I'd love to start on a mac though.
 
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I don't get why you'd want to run mac os on you pc either. Kinda like fueling an f-18 with mid grade esso gas
 
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it's funny... if Macs were so much slower than a PC then there would be few people that use them...

the top of the line mac can match a top PC easily. There are large fundamental differences in system architecture.. The fact that OSX itself is a MP system helps too. Also All Apple Pro Apps are written to use 2 processors..

Obviously the PC is faster on some things the mac on others... but generally they are fairly equivalent.

I personally have nothing against PC hardware.. I just absolutely dispise that piece of crap OS it comes with.. windows sucks large donkey balls.

And longhorn ain't coming out for a long time time.. fitting name I suppose..
 
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I'm running windows 200 pro, and can't think of a thing I don't like about it. I have run mac os too in school no real problems with it either that could'nt be traced back to poor ethernet maintenance. I wouldn't give you two dollars for a coppy of win xp. I just can't think of a good reason to put mac os on my machine that runs slick as owlshit day after day, month after month with no blue screens or any other kind of hassle. I guess I'm from the old school of "If it aint broke don't fix it" ;)
 
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I think a more exiting announcement would be "MIT Hackers Make Emulator To Run Vegas On A Mac!". I wouldnt run FCP unless Sony buys it and guts its code and replaces it with Vegas simply renamed. Once you get Vegas customized, it's like having your own personal NLE in many ways. There would be no sense to me to run a system as bogged down and awkward as an OS and software on a non-native set of hardware. Like they say, one of the big selling points for Mac is that the hardware and sofware were built in house so it works together more tightly. El Purposio El Defeatio.
 
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Where is everyone getting the idea that FCP runs slow? That's BS. I run FCP HD on a single 867MHz G4 with 768MB of RAM and it runs perfectly. Not slow at all.
In fact, thanks to the OS, I could open and run every app on my machine while working in FCP and work just as efficiently as I am now.
In fact, I've done it, just to demonstrate for a PC buddy.

That said, I agree that it's the ends, not the means, that really matter.

Question for the PCers... do the PC NLEs enable one to work with film (i.e., EDLs, change lists, etc.)? Besides Avid, I mean.
 
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Yes.

However, that *is* one weakness of Vegas -- it has a non-standard EDL. I believe a remedy for that is due, though.
 
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