Lookin like film

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Whiteside Production

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I know that PP2 has the 24p mode. The problem is that I have the Sony PD-170, and that does not shoot 24p. I am working on a feature length film and I really want it to look like film. Does anyone have any idea on how to do this? are there any free plugins?
 
you know what...i am doing the exact same thing that you are. I would really like to get some answers as well. I have the same camera and yea i wouldy really like it to look like film
 
I think Magic Bullet can do this for you by converting your interlaced video into progressive frames. You'll still suffer from the fact that the framerate has to be dropped from 30 fps to 24 or 25 fps... check out this article on the subject: http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/60i/

Tony
 
is there $5000 in the budget you can throw at a DVX100b?
that would get you much closer to a film look then the PD-170 ever will.
 
In post just about all you can do is 1) Careful coloring, possibly with Magic Bullet or one of the many other plugins out there targetting the 'film-look'... or just the built in tools in whatever editor you have (seeing as how the tools built into editors these days are pretty sweet). 2) Intelligent de-interlacing (like Re:Vision Fields Kit).

But more of the film-look is done in camera. Careful lighting/camera movement. Be overly-cautious with the highlights. The way (particularly lower-priced) video cameras clip their highlights is a dead giveaway of the 'video-look'. If anything, err on the side of being slightly under-exposed to clip as few highlights as possible. Use grad-filters and polarizers to knock-down the exposure on bright skies; powder-up peoples faces if they're getting shiny so as not to get clipped glints of light off cheeks & foreheads; try fo softer more even lighting than you might get away with in film so as to keep yourself within the limited exposure latitude of the video camera.

And beware of plugins that will just destroy your footage in the name of making it look like film. If you want your movie to look like it was shot on super-8 in 1970 and has sat in someone's humid basement since then, go right ahead. But if you want to get as close as you can to a modern hollywood picture shot on 35mm, those sorts of plugins are just a shot in the foot.
 
I dissagree with hemophilia.... Magic Bullet can make well shot footage look more like film. but it can not take crappy footage and make it look like film. The film look has to do with DOF, lighting and camera movement as well. It takes a long time to set up a shot for film. Sometimes hours just for one take. Most video projects are run and gun or very time constrained.

Take your time light it ell.. use aan adpater like the Letus35a or Redrockmicro M2 for the DOF.. Depth of Field... for some more filmatic shots.....

But dv video will fall apart if a film look is not applied correctly and tweaked. most generic presets are not acceptable for a professional look.. But there are numerous parameters you can change......

I hope that helps....

Also Vegas does a quick down and dirty 24p conversion.. If you are broadcasting on the web or jsut going to DV taht may help give you a more 24p look....
 
Easy solution is to rent a DVX100B if you don't have the budget to buy one. This is one of these situations that I would not "fix it in post".
 
syberfilm said:
I dissagree with hemophilia.... Magic Bullet can make well shot footage look more like film. but it can not take crappy footage and make it look like film.
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Don't be led astray by syberfilm's spurious interpretation of my words.
 
this goes back to my thesis statement on this:

If you shoot crappy, and apply "film effects" to it... you have a more "film like piece of crap"
 
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