SPX Studios
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What would everyone concider as a great lighting setup for the HVX and M2 adapter for shooting commericials and features.
Lighting with the HVX and M2 Adapter
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puredrifting
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I think you would be fine with a 10 ton grip and lighting truck.
Your inquiry is a bit broad in scope. Are you shooting modest two actor dialogue scenes or night time war scenes with 50 actors? Are you shooting mostly interiors or exteriors? Do you need to light up entire sets for multi-camera shoots or are you shooting single camera film style? Mostly on sticks, hand-held? Steadicam? Jib arm? Dolly? Can you afford an HMI package? There are a million considerations. Also, lighting is only half of the equation, the other 50% of your budget should be alloted toward grip equipment. You cannot light without devices to control and modify the light.
Give a LOT more detailed information and we can give you a lot more detailed information.
Dan
Your inquiry is a bit broad in scope. Are you shooting modest two actor dialogue scenes or night time war scenes with 50 actors? Are you shooting mostly interiors or exteriors? Do you need to light up entire sets for multi-camera shoots or are you shooting single camera film style? Mostly on sticks, hand-held? Steadicam? Jib arm? Dolly? Can you afford an HMI package? There are a million considerations. Also, lighting is only half of the equation, the other 50% of your budget should be alloted toward grip equipment. You cannot light without devices to control and modify the light.
Give a LOT more detailed information and we can give you a lot more detailed information.
Dan
Hi all, my fisrt post here!
Long time lurker first time poster...
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Regarding to the gear lighting set up, I would like to know the usual amount of WATTs required for the HVX to look clean in a commercial using the M2 + Fast Nikon lenses.
Any insights will be much appreciated...
T
Long time lurker first time poster...
This is a FANTASTIC site I would say it's like a dream come true!!!
Regarding to the gear lighting set up, I would like to know the usual amount of WATTs required for the HVX to look clean in a commercial using the M2 + Fast Nikon lenses.
Any insights will be much appreciated...
T
Hi all, my fisrt post here!
Long time lurker first time poster...
This is a FANTASTIC site I would say it's like a dream come true!!!
Regarding to the gear lighting set up, I would like to know the usual amount of WATTs required for the HVX to look clean in a commercial using the M2 + Fast Nikon lenses.
Any insights will be much appreciated...
T
Long time lurker first time poster...
This is a FANTASTIC site I would say it's like a dream come true!!!
Regarding to the gear lighting set up, I would like to know the usual amount of WATTs required for the HVX to look clean in a commercial using the M2 + Fast Nikon lenses.
Any insights will be much appreciated...
T
akuepper
Member
I'm lucky to have 3 trucks worth of shoot for my upcoming feature. I have a seperate electric, and a seprate grip. I've got a 20k, all the way down to a little car Kino flo. I have no idea how much light I will need, but my initial tests say that if I want to see ANYTHING in focus, I need some serious light.
When you start getting on longer lenses, and you shoot wide open, you start having things like noses in focus and eyes out... becomes an issue.
More light=more depth of field
We used to have the opposite problem, now the M2 has brought us back to the 60's in terms of lighting... some may say the 20's!!
When you start getting on longer lenses, and you shoot wide open, you start having things like noses in focus and eyes out... becomes an issue.
More light=more depth of field
We used to have the opposite problem, now the M2 has brought us back to the 60's in terms of lighting... some may say the 20's!!
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Hi guys:
Taff, your inquiry is still too broad. Yes, the HVX with an M2 will lose about a stop to stop and half of exposure over a stock HVX. Yes, that will require more light to get a decent exposed image. If I were shooting a feature, I would be comfortable, for the most part with a 3 ton grip and lighting combo truck with instruments ranging from 150 watt fresnels all of the way up to 5k HMI PARs.
All of it still depends on the sorts of setups and scenes and blocking you would be doing. Are there master shots on a stage with 30 actors or are there mainly intimate dinner scenes with two characters in a kitchen? See what I mean, it all depends on how large of an area you need to light up.
I recently finished a documentary with the producer and DP of NYPD Blue. Their lighting strategy was to light the precinct all from the outside with big HMIs through the windows, they would typically have an entire floor area of the precinct set lit up with around 3-5 20k HMIs, about 60,000 to 100,000 watts of lighting. Will you need that with the HVX-200 with an M2? Doubtful but it all just depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
Best,
Dan
Taff, your inquiry is still too broad. Yes, the HVX with an M2 will lose about a stop to stop and half of exposure over a stock HVX. Yes, that will require more light to get a decent exposed image. If I were shooting a feature, I would be comfortable, for the most part with a 3 ton grip and lighting combo truck with instruments ranging from 150 watt fresnels all of the way up to 5k HMI PARs.
All of it still depends on the sorts of setups and scenes and blocking you would be doing. Are there master shots on a stage with 30 actors or are there mainly intimate dinner scenes with two characters in a kitchen? See what I mean, it all depends on how large of an area you need to light up.
I recently finished a documentary with the producer and DP of NYPD Blue. Their lighting strategy was to light the precinct all from the outside with big HMIs through the windows, they would typically have an entire floor area of the precinct set lit up with around 3-5 20k HMIs, about 60,000 to 100,000 watts of lighting. Will you need that with the HVX-200 with an M2? Doubtful but it all just depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
Best,
Dan
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HDkilledFILM.
Burnin' down the House
I have three lights I'm using mainly for my next feature with the M2 HVX set up, three brinkteks two 650 and one 200 (lol). It depends what shooting style you are going for and what the film calls for, I agree with the above post, you need to be more specific...
Justin Marx
Well-known member
The camera is rated at ISO 320 without the M2 Adapter, so with it, I'd guess and say 250? So light it as if you were using ISO 250 film..
Your outdoors will be fine with shiny boards, mirrors, and the occasional 6k HMI Par if you loose the sun, but your indoor/night stuff will need a bit of a PUNCH..
It also has a great deal to do with your lenses.. Before you go out and start buying things, you should really get an idea of what you will be shooting.. OR just go rent things as you need them.. Get to know your local lighting and grip company, they can save you so much hassel.. Because no shoot is the same as the one before.
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Your outdoors will be fine with shiny boards, mirrors, and the occasional 6k HMI Par if you loose the sun, but your indoor/night stuff will need a bit of a PUNCH..
It also has a great deal to do with your lenses.. Before you go out and start buying things, you should really get an idea of what you will be shooting.. OR just go rent things as you need them.. Get to know your local lighting and grip company, they can save you so much hassel.. Because no shoot is the same as the one before.
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Bowels of Hell
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Check your math on that ASA. If it's a stop and a half, then you're looking at closer to 100.Justin Marx said:The camera is rated at ISO 320 without the M2 Adapter, so with it, I'd guess and say 250? So light it as if you were using ISO 250 film..
Your outdoors will be fine with shiny boards, mirrors, and the occasional 6k HMI Par if you loose the sun, but your indoor/night stuff will need a bit of a PUNCH..
It also has a great deal to do with your lenses.. Before you go out and start buying things, you should really get an idea of what you will be shooting.. OR just go rent things as you need them.. Get to know your local lighting and grip company, they can save you so much hassel.. Because no shoot is the same as the one before.
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Yikes. Can we push it a stop?
Hi Guys,
Considering the HVX being between 64 and 100 ISO...would you still be looking at 3 ton grip for most situations?
It would be interesting to know the amount of light (watts) needed to do a master shots on a stage with 30 actors and a shot in an intimate dinner scene with two characters in a kitchen for example.
How much light would you need considering the HVX+M2 in an average situation to get decent exposure?
I want to buy lights that could serve for the most situations, that's why I am asking this questions...
Any answers will be much appeciated
Thanks guys!
Taff
Considering the HVX being between 64 and 100 ISO...would you still be looking at 3 ton grip for most situations?
It would be interesting to know the amount of light (watts) needed to do a master shots on a stage with 30 actors and a shot in an intimate dinner scene with two characters in a kitchen for example.
How much light would you need considering the HVX+M2 in an average situation to get decent exposure?
I want to buy lights that could serve for the most situations, that's why I am asking this questions...
Any answers will be much appeciated
Thanks guys!
Taff