Here´s what I have to shoot:
Two guys watching a film inside a cinema.
The cinema is real but there won´t be any film on the screen to reflect light on their faces...
Any ideas on how to recreate that?
Thanx
- Rent a projector, bring it to the cinema and blast a video from archive.org unto it?
- Convince the theatre owner to show trailers/movielike ads during that period?
Well the light that a movie screen gives, is very soft, because it's a veyr large source, and is intermitent, because is not always the same amount of light.
Just get the biggest light you have and put it through a diffusion frame. It works if you use a 1/4 CTB on the light too, or maybe even a 1/2 CTB, also give the actors some backlight simulating the proyector beam light. Those are the only real sources of light in a movie theater.
depending how shot ..
get a digital projector and play a DVD .. project onto ( image thru silk) a 4x4 or 6x6 silk or use 4x4 bounce board - bounce/shoot light onto subjects - so silk/bounce card would be 4-8ft in front of subjects ...maybe bounce some light off the movie screen (fill room with approx 3-6ft candles )
or get 2-3 lights and bouce them - use a flicker generator on each light ( put different color gel on each light )
Digital projector might be a bit expensive, especally since you'll need a fairly powerful one. How about getting a 16mm projector from ebay (got mine for $60), a 16mm film( you can get them very cheap on ebay or from many public libraries or public schools). Also keep in mind that all of that can very easilly be done in post.
Thank you all very much for your posts.
I´ll be shooting on DVX-100b progressive. 4:3 letterbox to get the 16:9 frame.
About the framing:
It will be quite tight , focusing on the two guys. Just both of them with the top part of their front seats row. They are seatting in the middle of the theater so behind them we´ll see some other seats... eventually the legs of another guy seating 2 rows behind...
We´ll never get to see (or know) what they are looking at.
Thanxs again
We actually had a scene like that in a film we just did. It featured kids in a classroom watching an educational film. We actually tried it with an 8mm projector, but it didn't kick off enough light. We wound up taking a 650w britek spot, putting it on a stand. We then to a large rotating fan, removed it from it's casing, and mounted the blades on a C stand (we clamped a pencil on there for the blades to spint on) We then had a PA rotating the fan in front of the light to create a flicker effect on the casts faces.
Honestly, the result we got from this was OK, but not great. Ideally, we would have had the fan motor controlled, and further back from the talent so the light wasn't so hard. In the final scene, with the sound added and everything, it came out pretty well. The only problem was the light setup gave everyone on set a headache.
Play around with it though, you may find something that works.