Levels???

"Also I find that You Tube tend to normalize all their audio so a downloaded video may not be accurate enough for relative measurements."
For sure Gary, YT's audio normalization could give us a skewed level. Same with the Firefox "Download Helper's" Libav converter I used to get it off of YT. Yes too, an absolute reference level would be of value.
 
I normally do all my audio post in pro tools these days so I use a quite low cost broadcast PPM metering plug in to help me set levels:

http://products.zplane.de/ppmulator

At work I sit in front of Calrec Apollo desks so that is a different ball game altogether as everything has meters but we still use PPM's as well as loudness meters.

 
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