LCD v.s. CRT

Well, ILM rarely will do things for the TV screen, so color correcting with an NTSC monitor would be pointless. The bottom line, LCD's are nice space saving, but when it comes down to accurate colors, and highlight and shadow detail, they don't compare to CRT's. IF you are doin'g anything that will be displayed from computer monitors, or printing with a calibrated monitor, CRT's are a necesity for accurate colors. If you are video editing, and have access to an NTSC monitor, or PAL monitor :), then LCD's can save you a lot of space on your desktop. I personally, use CRT's becasue I do so much photoshop work, printing, and designing, that I just don't feel the LCD is there yet.
 
FREUDENBERG_FILMS said:
You dont have ghosting on your curser when you move it around?
Uhh, no . . . not at all! Clearly, CRTs still look MUCH better than LCDs or plasmas, but for desktop use, a couple of big 19" flat panel LCD displays makes using timeline-based applications much more pleasurable and (in my case) have a zero footprint, thanks to the swivel wall mounts I've installed. CRTs are just soooooo bulky.
 
Let me hijack a question, I am setting up an editing station and need a TV setup to simply make sure that the final product plays properly on both the computer DVD and the TV DVD. I am editing on a 19" CRT so the TV should be about the same size to sit next to it. Do I need to consider a combo TV/TV Monitor for any reason or should I get the cheapest Best Buy TV I can buy since it will be used for test viewing only.

thanks, Roger
 
Editing to a consumer TV won't be doing yourself a favor at all. It would be the same as doing your CC on a CRT monitor. What you need is a production monitor that you can accurately calibrate.

It doesn't need to be the same size, a nice 15" JVC from EVS should suit you nicely.
 
Well then I guess I dont know enough to ask the right questions, I am starting out and think all I need is a CRT to edit on, color is not an issue or a problem, yet, I'll work with what I have untill I upgrade the CRT and then get a better one. But all i really want to do is make sure the DVD's will play on all customers DVD players, make sure it looks right, all the menus work, etc., how do I do that? This is not HD.

Roger
 
fotoflo said:
Do I need to consider a combo TV/TV Monitor for any reason or should I get the cheapest Best Buy TV I can buy since it will be used for test viewing only.
Check the specs on a good cosumer electronics website (or the manufacturer's website). Many current consumer TVs I've found have surprisingly good horizontal resolution, often rivaling that of broadcast monitors.
 
What is required on my Power Mac G5 to make this monitor available for editing in Final Cut Pro?

jmf

Rush said:
Here is what I use, primarily because I think JVC found a niche making excellent CRT's for little money:

http://www.evsonline.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TMH150CGU

This used to cost $689. It has really come down in price. It is also expandable to YRB input, does 16:9, and has Blue Check.

Color System: NTSC / PAL
CRT 15" (14" Viewable)
Horizontal Resolution More than 750 lines
Phosphor P22
Color Temperature6500K / 9300K selectable
 
Rush said:
Here is what I use, primarily because I think JVC found a niche making excellent CRT's for little money:

http://www.evsonline.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TMH150CGU

This used to cost $689. It has really come down in price. It is also expandable to YRB input, does 16:9, and has Blue Check.

Color System: NTSC / PAL
CRT 15" (14" Viewable)
Horizontal Resolution More than 750 lines
Phosphor P22
Color Temperature6500K / 9300K selectable

Rush-

I have a pretty good video card that supports TV IN/OUT. For editing, is there any difference in using an NTSC color monitor, or the 13" TV I currently have hooked into my set-up?

Thanks.

Rick
 
fotoflo said:
But all i really want to do is make sure the DVD's will play on all customers DVD players, make sure it looks right, all the menus work, etc., how do I do that? This is not HD.
You don't really need anything additional to make sure your DVD will look right. Your software has NTSC Safe Area markers, I'm sure. Then just burn a DVD and test it on your own DVD player.

rlm7189 said:
I have a pretty good video card that supports TV IN/OUT. For editing, is there any difference in using an NTSC color monitor, or the 13" TV I currently have hooked into my set-up?
I'm not Rush, but I can answer. There are a few key differences between production monitors and consumer televisions. The biggest being (IMO) that they can be very accurately calibrated. Having a 'blue only' or 'blue gun' feature only makes that point more relevant. Production monitors can have 4:3/ 16:9 switchable, as well as underscan. They also USUALLY have higher resolution.
 
Some of the comments posted here with respect to LCD monitors are clearly coming from people that haven't tried them lately. The currently offered models are a huge improvement over LCD's being offered just a year ago. I just bought a Dell 2405FPW to replace my old Viewsonic 21" CRT, and believe me, I don't miss the old tube. First, the cinema size display is vastly superior for video editting, and the extra real estate really really helps. Second, the newer monitors have contrast ratios and brightness which rivals the very best CRT monitors, and the better LCD's have response times which make ghosting a thing of the past.

I enjoy the occasional online video game, and I'm currently playing battlefield 2 (one of the most demanding graphic programs ever written - it really stresses the video card) with no ghosting whatsoever - in fact, the image is just excellent.

Likewise, using a good quality video card from ATI or nVidia and DVI output means I have drivers which permit me to adjust the color on the monitor to a high degree. I used an NTSC monitor to match color on my LCD, and now I edit without fear knowing I'm getting a very accurate rendition on the LCD. I still do final correction using the ntsc monitor, but its very close.

2 years ago I would have said "CRT" without hesitation. But now, the cinema sized LCD's are the only way to fly.
 
I just bought a new 19" LCD monitor for editing. It's great for the time-line, but not so great for viewing video.

Video looks best on a SVGA CRT at full resolution.

Since most of my work ends up on cdrom (at full PAL resolution), I colour-correct on a 17" VGA monitor. Many times my works has be shown on a TV or projector, and it still looks great.

If you want to buy a consumer television for previewing (it's better than nothing), simply go to your local superstore which has all the monitors showing the same picture, and look for the smallest, brightest, and most configurable TV. Sure a production monitor is best, but any TV is better than nothing.
 
Tapper said:
The currently offered models are a huge improvement over LCD's being offered just a year ago...2 years ago I would have said "CRT" without hesitation. But now, the cinema sized LCD's are the only way to fly.

Tapper-

I agree with you 150%.

Rick
 
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