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Very nice article, I'm interested in the same kind of article comparing some wireless units.

Thanks for posting!
 
EDIT-XTREEM said:
Very nice article, I'm interested in the same kind of article comparing some wireless units.

Thanks for posting!
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I have already received my first test wireless unit, the Audio-Technica 1800 series. Unfortunately you will have to wait a few months, I have some other articles that have to be written before the wireless article and obtaining all of the test wireless units will undoubtedly be a long ordeal.

But it will be there sometime in the near future.

Thanks,

Dan
 
very nice
the only problem the next question why the f,, i need the dpa if i have me2 for free :-)
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Firstly thanks so much Dan for the great reviews....plenty of food for thought!

I'm trying to find a lav that is the equivalent of the "Oktava Mk012" in terms of bang for buck!

After reading your article I'm starting to think it might be worth going for the DPA 4061...on your tests it sounded impressive...particularly next to the Shotgun/cardiod mics...(before your article I was thinking Sennheiser)

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Can I ask a fairly basic/new to lav mic question...

Do the Sennheiser and DPA 4061 come with....

XLR cable connection option? (For use with HVX)
Clip suitable for attaching mic to a shirt?

Thanks!
 
Interesting and loooong article. Looks very detailed. I will have to read when I get a free hour...or two ;)

Good work
 
Great article!

I'm in the beginning stages of looking to buy a quality lav, so this has been very helpful for me. Thanks for putting together such a wonderful resource of info...

Kevin
 
Oleg 2 said:
very nice
the only problem the next question why the f,, i need the dpa if i have me2 for free :-)
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Hi Oleg:

If I had the Sennheiser for free, not sure if I would buy the DPA either!

That DPA sounds really sweet though. The Sennheiser wasn't bad either. The worse part about doing these articles and working with all of this microphone goodness is that you end up wanting to buy about 10 or 12 lavs. The lavs were the same as the shotguns, there are different mics with different sound qualities for different situations.

Thanks,

Dan
 
Mavoz said:
Firstly thanks so much Dan for the great reviews....plenty of food for thought!

I'm trying to find a lav that is the equivalent of the "Oktava Mk012" in terms of bang for buck!

After reading your article I'm starting to think it might be worth going for the DPA 4061...on your tests it sounded impressive...particularly next to the Shotgun/cardiod mics...(before your article I was thinking Sennheiser)


Can I ask a fairly basic/new to lav mic question...

Do the Sennheiser and DPA 4061 come with....

XLR cable connection option? (For use with HVX)
Clip suitable for attaching mic to a shirt?

Thanks!
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Hi Mavoz:

Glad you found the article interesting.

All of the microphones are available and were tested with XLR connections. Some were hard wired to the power supply/XLR tube and some had a detachable XLR connector with the capsule having a different connector for also attaching to wireless units.

The exact Sennheiser that I tested was sent in a hardwired configuration like this
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and the DPAs were all sent with a detachable MicroDot connector like this
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The Sennheiser is available with other connections though, I just specified I wanted to test with an XLR power supply since I wasn't testing wireless.

All of the MSRP prices I have in the specs are for a hardwired or detachable XLR power supply. On all of the lavs, if you are using them with wireless systems, the prices are much lower if you order them with the connection that your wireless system uses (Hirose, TA-5F, etc.) or you can order them bare wire pigtail and wire the connections yourself or have a pro audio shop wire them.

Yes, both of the mics came with a variety of mounting options, vampire clips, etc.

Hope that this is helpful.

Dan
 
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wabbit said:
Interesting and loooong article. Looks very detailed. I will have to read when I get a free hour...or two ;)

Good work
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Hi wabbit:

I wanted the article to be definitive so you can use it as an ongoing resource so yeah, it's a long mother, but it will be relevant for years, lavs son't really change very often.

Glad you liked it!

Dan
 
puredrifting said:
Hi Mavoz:

Glad you found the article interesting.

All of the microphones are available and were tested with XLR connections. Some were hard wired to the power supply/XLR tube and some had a detachable XLR connector with the capsule having a different connector for also attaching to wireless units.

The exact Sennheiser that I tested was sent in a hardwired configuration like this ...........and the DPAs were all sent with a detachable MicroDot connector like this........
The Sennheiser is available with other connections though, I just specified I wanted to test with an XLR power supply since I wasn't testing wireless.

Dan
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Thanks Dan, much appreciated!

After reviewing all these mics...I'm interested in your opinion.... which one would you choose given the following parameters....

I can afford to buy one quality general purpose lav mic that I plan to use for many years to come. (ie. Budget wise I can't justify several lav mics for different scenarios..but am prepared to buy quality in the first instance.)

I will be using it direct injected into a HVX202 via XLR cable

One day I'd like to add wireless flexibility...but is not a high priority just yet.

If you had to make a single choice what would it be?

Thanks again!
 
Hiya:

Well, I made my choices years and years ago. I alternate between the Tram TR-50 and the Countryman B6. I like the overall sound of the Tram better than the Countryman but the Countryman is so much easier to rig and still sounds great.

If I were buying a new lavalier today, I was personally most impressed with the DPA 4061. It's ability cut almot seamlessly with the shotgun and cardioid was very impressive and I found the overall sound to be quite uncolored and neutral. But keep in mind that the 4061 was not the easiest to hide or rig, especially under wardrobe. For narrative stuff, I might still favor the Countryman B6 at times. Depends on the wardrobe and what the talent is doing.

Best,

Dan


Mavoz said:
Thanks Dan, much appreciated!

After reviewing all these mics...I'm interested in your opinion.... which one would you choose given the following parameters....

I can afford to buy one quality general purpose lav mic that I plan to use for many years to come. (ie. Budget wise I can't justify several lav mics for different scenarios..but am prepared to buy quality in the first instance.)

I will be using it direct injected into a HVX202 via XLR cable

One day I'd like to add wireless flexibility...but is not a high priority just yet.

If you had to make a single choice what would it be?

Thanks again!
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Mavoz said:
Thanks Dan, much appreciated!

After reviewing all these mics...I'm interested in your opinion.... which one would you choose given the following parameters....

I can afford to buy one quality general purpose lav mic that I plan to use for many years to come. (ie. Budget wise I can't justify several lav mics for different scenarios..but am prepared to buy quality in the first instance.)

I will be using it direct injected into a HVX202 via XLR cable

One day I'd like to add wireless flexibility...but is not a high priority just yet.

If you had to make a single choice what would it be?

Thanks again!
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buy a sanken
i have about 6-7 different lavaliers for regular use, the sanken works in 90% of the time and live longer ( usialy ) the the others



and if you need cheap version of 48ph , you can use non original power suply
or used one
 
puredrifting said:
Hiya:

If I were buying a new lavalier today, I was personally most impressed with the DPA 4061......

Best,

Dan
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Hi Dan,

Thanks for your advice...You certainly have got me leaning towards the DPA 4061...your article is very valuable..

Only thing is I'm quite confused about the accessories that come with it....

I've just done some initial enquiries here in Melbourne Australia and am finding they could be an expensive catch..

(Prices in Aussie Dollars)

4061 Mic only (no clips no adaptors) - $500
Accessory pack that includes box & various clips - $140
XLR microdot adaptor - $170

Grand total:

$810 AUD or $751 US

However the salesman I dealt with was reading promotional materials...so it might be good to try and clarify exactly what comes with this mic...their website also seems a little vague on this....

In a PDF I found they refer to a EMK4071 ENG/EFP Microphone Kit...which includes XLR connection ....

"The kit includes 4071 Miniature Omnidirectional Microphone with Presence
Boost, a variety of pins, clips and holders, a colour mix of windscreens
as well as a windjammer and miniature mesh .....also includes an XLR adapter which provides a 3 dB attenuation
around 800 Hz, the final tonal adjustment needed for going directly on air
or to track without equalising."

But would this kit work with the 4061? (The pdf mentions a 4061 'instrument' kit.)

Can you shed any light Dan on what exactly the 4061 comes with and what kit I should order for it so that I can plug it into a HVX and attach it to someones shirt! (And if you know of an international shipping company that can beat $751 US I'd be most appreciative!)

Thanks!
 
my money is with a sanken cos11 and countryman b6 combo - sanken for any time you can get it rigged nicely, b6 for any other time. these two complement each other PERFECTLY. i started with the sankens as they are fantastic all rounders (and read: used in ALL production environments from reality to features - future proof!) then added the b6's because they are fantastic utility mics. i really recommend this buying tactic, its the one thing i think ive done RIGHT in my sound equipment buying process over the last 5 years!
 
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