KINO FLOS good lighting for G35?

[nantnee]

i prefer the look of the G35 over the other adapters.

 

[Austinv]

It really does look outstanding. The Sgblade has a unique look as well

 

[nantnee]

pimp. can you shoot inside an apartment with only practical lighting? Or shooting outside at night with no additional lighting?

 

[PIMP]

with the g35 no way. i couldnt do that even with the brevis

 

[DEPTH OF PHIL]

It's also dependent on the lens

It's also dependent on the lens

pimp. can you shoot inside an apartment with only practical lighting? Or shooting outside at night with no additional lighting?

This is also dependent on the lens guys, a 50mm 1.4 or 85 1.4 can see alot of detail in lower light. I have lit with a 1k lowel dp pro amd a 500 tota on a G35 and got a 2/8 to a 4 f stop. Iris open full on the camera of course.
Also you can go with 1/32 shutter and get a lot more kick . plus add 3 db more gain if u want a gritty look. But optimally, HMIs are the choice for that great edge rim and side key we all love in film! But you can do it with a lowel dp kit.

 

[DEPTH OF PHIL]

G35 is unique in style and Bokeh

G35 is unique in style and Bokeh

Pimp, Thanks for your kind words, We originally had tried P&S Teknik mini 35 and pro 35 and Movietube ( static adapter like the G35) to shoot the more filmic parts of our productions. Bottom line too costly, The G35 is light and in less than 30 secs it is mounted and ready to go. It looks so filmic, we have not used it in the productions so far since we just picked it up at the NAB , but have done a few tests on it. Very serious and moody, the way film should look.

We will be using it in the upcoming shows for SCI-FI Channel "The Haunted Boy " and SOUL CATCHER.
I will keep the DVX board posted on our progress and may have footage as soon as two weeks. Thanks for your interest Philip

 

[JHouser]

I am curious if anyone has had any experience lighting for the hvx + g35. I am planning on renting some kino flos but someone told me they are not powerful enough for the light hungry g35. They advised me to rent some HMI'S. I am thinking a 2.5k might be good enough to light for the g35. What do you guys think?

PIMP,
Kino flo's are very efficient lighting tools when comparing the foot candles they produce to the amperage they draw. So for a soft source they really are the most bang for the buck. I have a few more questions for you. Is it a night interior? Is it supposed to look like a night interior? If so you should think about where your light is coming from. Kino's are nice but in order to light an entire bedroom to level with any film stock or adapter you need to ensure that you have motivated light or else it just looks like you are banging 3 4x4 kino's into the ceiling.

If I was shooting an interior night scene with a G35 and HVX I would get a few 150 watt practical bulbs from Home depot. (not perfectly balanced but ok.) That will get you some nice levels in lamps around the room. I would get one 4x4 kino, drop tungsten bulbs in it and use it as a light source from a different room. Then I would probably hit a few 1k fresnels into the ceiling depending on how flat I want the image to look. If you have the ability I would also stick something outside coming in the window as a porch light or some sort of external light source, you can toss some Plus Green on it and give it the sodium vapor street lamp look.

Now if you are shooting at night but supposed to be a day interior than I would draw the shades and bang the Kino into the closed shades. OR maybe a 575 HMI leave a little crack open for some spill. Keep the practicles, if the HMI is too cool drop some CTO in front of it.

One thing to remember with lighting is that it is all about ratios. light to dark. Low light cameras do not solve your ratio problem. They may make it easier to imagine how the ratio will read but you still have to control your motivated source against your ambient light.

My biggest gripe right now is the high cost of usefull lighting tools. A set of Dedo lights should not cost $5,000. The same applies to Kino's and HMI's. Filmmakers who are experimenting with lighting and not have to shell out that much money to have safe high output lighting. LED's are cool and are making things as bit more affordable, but they are not the same as a 1,200 watt HMI.

Lighting is really underrated in these communities. I own an A1 but rarely use it as most times the project I'm working on calls for a different camera. But I always rent the same lights.

Why not rent the camera and own the lights? It's not like Kino or Arri comes out with a different bulb every year. Seems like a more consistent investment.

PS we are working on some affordable lighting solutions which should make this whole conversation moot. Hope this helps.