Kine Transfer Anyone...

renbash

renbash

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Hi,
I am an indie film maker. Would like to find out the best/reasonable camera, if i would like to kine transfer my recording... Currently i am using a Sony HDCAM.(cine-alta). I got some info about HV30... Heard it was good... But can i kine-t my recording?

Renbash
Indie Film Maker:huh:
 
If you have a CineAlta why would you consider downgrading to an HV30?

Are you talking about a KineScope transfer? Shooting off a monitor? I can't figure out what you are asking.
 
I think he means using the camera to transfer film to DV. He's probably using a Cine-Alta cam to capture now and thinking of purchasing an HV30
 
Ok its like this,, I use Cine ALta, but would like to purchase a HV30. And i would like to transfer my recording and final works in 35 mm... Can i do that in HV30? if its not a good idea... perhaps any ather camera like HV30 that can be used? or there is only Cine ALta that is up to the quality...

Renbash
 
I think the CineAlta badge on a sony camera only means its capeable of proper 24fps at progressive scan, which is why the EX1 has it. It dosnt mean any more than that...

What you using anyway, F900?
 
Yes Sony CineAlta F900 HDCam. So, What camera u suggest? Hv30? or any other brands or models? Just that i want my final output in 35 mm...
ANy idea? If those cameras can be used which 35mm adapter to be used?
 
Yes i use Sony CineAlta F900 HDCam. So what camera u would suggest if i want my output to be in 35mm after Cine Transfer. Any idea on HV30 or any other same specs models such as it...?

And what camera was used to shoot "CLOVERFIELD"?

And here's some image of HV30/HV20, (if haven't seen it) this way...:beer:
 

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hoarp001 said:
I think the CineAlta badge on a sony camera only means its capeable of proper 24fps at progressive scan, which is why the EX1 has it. It dosnt mean any more than that...

What you using anyway, F900?
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You know - I've never actually knew that. Every-time I've used CineAlta as a brand title it's been in reference to the F900 and above. Though the main CineAlta fleet has several other cameras in the professional line. Never knew the EX series was under the fleet.

But I can tell you this, if you own an F900 and are considering going with an HV30 because it's a better camera in all, and better for a film out - I would tell you that you're an idiot. Or don't own an F900.

The F900 is more than capable for a film out. It shot StarWars and a whole slew of films. Cloverfield was shot by the F900s big brother the F23 which is the fully digital version (and then some, and a lot of some) of the F900. Though many will say the entire film cloverfield was shot on the HVX because they used it in one scene, truth is the F23 and the ViperCam shot the film - more with the F23 because of it's dynamic range and how it performed under the sodium vapor lights.

The HV30 has an inherent issue I don't think they dealt with. That is the pulldown flags to get 24FPS, the camera is a consumer camera - no XLRs, no Phantom power, no options to control the camera manually - unless you use a little cheat to control exposure. Not that it is a bad camera - I own it's precursor cam. But no matter how you slate the HV30, it is a consumer camera.

Whereas the F900R is a 100,000 dollar body camera. A true professional unit by any definition. No where near the same range as the HV30. They are two different beasts. If you want film out - and actually own an F900R - go with that.
 
The CineAlta F35 is not yet released. In fact I haven't heard anything about it in a while. I am going to Demo one when it comes out. Should be released 4th QTR. I know there are one or two demo units in operation - but the camera itself is not yet out. And the 35 wouldn't be the camera to use for a film like Cloverfield. The F35 is a 35mm Digital Cinema camera whereas the F23 (The camera the shot Cloverfield) is a 2/3 sensor with a greater dynamic range than the F35 will have (to my understanding).

As I have said in every post that has come up about cloverfield. The HVX only shot the Party scene in the film and I believe it shot the handheld going to the party and at Rob's girlfriends house. The remainder of the film was shot with mostly the F23 since it plays very well in natural light especially under Sodium Vapor lights. The ViperCam took a small piece of the cake as well. But the Viper tends to have a greenish tinge to the footage. So - Cloverfield = F23, Viper, and a few shots with the HVX.

I've following and learning the F series for a year and a half now. Ever since I shot with an F900 and fell in love with it.

And I was under the understanding he owned the F900. Owning or not, looking for film out - shoot with the F900 again. Or if you want the 35mm DOF - spend a little extra and rent the Genesis or Viper. Or conversely, if you can't afford those cameras - look into the HVX or the HPX series. I personally would not use a 600 dollar camera for a film out. The HV20(30) has a lot of issues.
 
i think he just wants a decent camera, that can be printed to film and not look like crap...

here is a list of cameras in order of my preference for films and what not... surprisingly enough the prices correspond...

hv30/hv20
panasonic dvx100a/dvx102
canon A1
panasonic HVX200A
sony EX1
f900
16mm film
RED ONE
35mm film

why does the hv20/30 come last? because it has an iso of aprox 100... and i use 35mm adapters.
 
Yup, i don't own a F900, but rent it from local rental house, which cost me a lot. So, i was thinking to purchase one... So, thats about HV30... How about, Sony HDV-HDR-HC9E? Same explanation?

HPX & HVX is what brand? Sony? this is the first time i have haerd of it...
 
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The HVX200a and the HPX170 are Panasonic cameras.
You may want to spend some time reading the forums here as well as looking at each manufacturers site to get an idea of what is out there.
Doing searches on the site for specific cameras will also help you get quite a bit of information.

Once you do that you will be able to post more specific questions about specific models.
Right now its very difficult for anyone to guide you as the questions you're asking are so broad.
 
You are going to have to search. There is a wealth of information regarding the EX1.

Take a gander through the pages, these things have been talked about at great extents. You are sure to find what you are looking for.
 
Hi is it that HVX 200a and HVX 202a the same? if not where can i find some explanation about the HVX 202a?
 
renbash said:
Finally I am thinking of purchasing Sony EX1... What u think Luis?
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The EX1 is a great camera, depending on your needs.
I haven't shot extensively with it - only tested it out for a short time.

I would suggest spending some time reading the EX forum here to hear what other EX1 owners have to say:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?f=124


Before jumping into any new camera I would spend some serious time reading and researching the workflow for each camera you're considering, as well as the ergonomics of the cameras themselves. Those are two factors that I personally at least find weigh heavily in how much I enjoy working with a given camera.
 
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