Juicedlink + external recorder

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ZlobniMafijc

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Hi!

I believe this topic has already been discussed several times on this forum, though I coudn't find those conversations yet. But I'm in a kind of hurry, so please give me you opinions and then the thread can be locked.

I've recently bought a Juicedlink CX211 and a Rode NTG-2 in purpouse to use them with my HV30. The sound is good, but I would also like to make a standalone recording setup (a micman) with the ntg-2 on a boom, recording on a some kind of a voice recorder. I've been considering zoom h2, (h4 is out of my range), Tascam DR-07, ... I think it doesn't need a xlr input since I have the juicedlink which can act as an adapter and a preamp.

Are there any cheaper options? I would also like a sound recorder to have it's own mic to use it instead of ntg-2 when necessary (ambient sound, small rooms ...) and a headphones output to control the recording.

Recommendations? Experiences? :smile:
 
the cheapest is to record directly into your notebook. BH Photo sells an adapter to use XLR mics with 3.5mm plugs. cost about $50 - you have to get the model that also matches impedence.
 
but I already have the juicedlink so I can use it to change xlr to 3.5 mm

besides that, notebook is not the most carriable and endurable device on market compared to zooms and other small recorders (at least mine)

has anybody had any experiences with Swissonic MDR-2?
 
It should work fine - I've done similar using a small mixer and a DR-07.

The Swissonic appears to be the same cheap piece of crap recorder that's been floating around under a few brand names for a while now.

You can get the DR-07 or the H2 for like $140 at Amazon. Between the two, I prefer the Tascam, but they're both very capable little recorders.
 
thank you for answers so far :smile:

has anyone ever encountered any problems with syncing the sound and picture that hadn't been in accordance with each other, I mean, in sense of velocity

sorry for bad english :happy:
 
ZlobniMafijc said:
thank you for answers so far :smile:

has anyone ever encountered any problems with syncing the sound and picture that hadn't been in accordance with each other, I mean, in sense of velocity

sorry for bad english :happy:
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Yes you are going to face some issues regarding that. Forget long takes because your sound will going to drift apart from the image at some point.

That point will depend on some factors, the main being both internal clocks (the camera and the sound recorder).

Besides that, you really must to slate every take for the sake of save you A LOT of time in post!
 
You already have the answers. If you can't afford the very reasonable Zoom H4N, which eliminates the need for the JuicedLink due to having it's own XLR inputs, then the H2 would do. Soom stuff tends to lose sync the longer the clips though (in my experience). There is a software called Plural Eyes for 150.00 that automatically syncs all your video and audio pieces with no need for timecode too. That's cool if you have separate audio, or multi-cam shoots.

There is also the cute little Sony PCM-M10 for 274.00 when you add to cart. I trust Sony much more than anything else in the portable recorder area as far as the files not drifting off sync, though there are no XLR inputs, BUT you have the juiced link so...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...10_BLACK_PCM_M10_Portable_Audio_Recorder.html
 
How long of a take are we talking about here? And what about continuous takes? How badly does the sync drift?
Does Plural Eyes help that at all?
 
My Zoom H4 drifted off of the video's audio track within minutes. But with something decent like an Edirol R-44 it does not drift after hours.
 
darkaydix said:
How long of a take are we talking about here? And what about continuous takes? How badly does the sync drift?
Does Plural Eyes help that at all?
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Probably not much. Digital is fairly self resolving so maybe a frame or two over an hour. More than that and something is really wrong. If you record to a compressed format like MP3 that goes out the window and you can drift all over the place. So stick to WAV files.

No Pluraleyes is for syncing the take not dealing with drifting sync.

Also the camera is as likely to be off in the clock as the audio on consumer gear like this so how long you stay tight will depend on the clocks in both and might even vary over time. But as a rule I wouldn't worry unless your going to do hour long takes.
 
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