its so dark when I put it onto a dvd, professional standards etc...

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I took my avi file, encoded it as mpeg 2 and it all came out pretty dark overall....it was properly exposed, its just the overall encode that seemed to do it.

The file was only like 8gb and I couldn't seem to get it to be much bigger than 2, obviously the mpeg file will be much smaller but how can I increase this file so that it comes out as like 3.5 Gb or so?

I am finished editing a surf video/documentary, possibly destined for tv as well, I don't know what to do aside from setting the levels blacks 18, whites 235 to comply with broadcast standards. is there something i'm missing, like a standard setting for the hue, brightness, gamma levels or what?

I'm really confused, I have a very good surf video but I can't seem to make it look good once its on the tv....i've seen other surf videos on the market that I know for a fact were shot with lesser cameras than a dvx100 but the overall image quality is much better in these other videos...i' have a feeling i'm really missing something in the editing department that is an important part of creating a professional product.

cheers,

tyler
 
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If I am wrong on any/all of my advice please correct me. first off I think the number is 16 for blacks. Are you crushign the black up unitl 16 or are you not letting the levels go past 16? I believe the ladder is the proper way for broadcast but I don't think you have to do this if you are putting it on a dvd. A dvd is digital, this process is for analog formats. I believe the dvd player should do the proper conversion for you. Make sure what you are editing on is a televison that is properly calabrated. If you are converting firwire to analog for the television you are editing on, you need a procamp to get a proper calabration. That being said I have problems with proper black and white levels myslef. Good luck!
 
Hi,

Assuming that you mean that your output will be broadcast in an NTSC environment, you're looking for an IRE signal that is within 7.5 to 100 which is a 16-235 RBG equivalent.

How you get it there is another matter.

I doubt that you used an MPEG encoder that automatically encoded from the time line to MPEG2 and "NTSC-ized" the file to IRE safe color range.

I'm not sure that you even want to encode to MPEG2. Broadcasters will likely want a better, less lossy CODEC. An edited DV file would be preferable to an MPEG2 file, although there is a bias against DV, there's a greater bias against MPEG2.

Back to IRE standards, you can and should check your scopes in Premiere. If they show some trouble, make the project a sequence, and under Color Correction, Apply Broadcast Colors filter.

Good luck!
 
here's a question, if some of the video is slightly darker shouldn't I just use the gamma effect and drop the value from the standard 10 to an 8 or so??
 
Hi,

Darker than what, the dark side of the moon?
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The purpose of the scopes is objectivity.

Don't say 'dark', look at the scopes to measure the blacks to be specific, so that you can report something like "4IRE".

That way we'll know if your monitor is is off or if your video is really dark or not.
 
well, the video is off a bit dark, some of it at least....im trying to learn about scopes so i can get a more balanced look overall....any ideas of where to start looking ??
 
thanks Mike....i've been digging around a bit and slowly learning...it's not so much reading the scopes but applying the changes to make the video more balanced....luminance, etc. I really don't know the best way to fix the footage if the luminance is off, gamma, 3 way color corrector, master pedastel???
 
so I checked my settings in Cinema Craft Encoder and there was a setting for the levels, and it was checked off as 16, 235....i unchecked it and switched it to 0, 255 for the white and black values respectively...that might have something to do with the issue that i'm having with the dvd being kind of dark...i'll know after the 3 pass encode is complete.
 
Hi,

I don't know if Paunch has the expensive version or the $75 version of CCE, but the mega bucks is one of the best encoders out there. The lessor - it gets mixed reviews.

My favorite cheap encoding software is TMPGEnc. Works great.
 
i'm not sure if it is or not....i got it from a friend but maybe i'll download the lesser version trial to see what exactly i have....
 
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