Is Vegas best for DVX100A?

ProfD

ProfD

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Vegas, Final Cut Pro, Liquid, Avid, Adobe, etc...

Which is best for use with the DVX100A and a P4 Windows XP platform?

Thanks,
Prof. D.
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Vegas 6.0

hands down

Vegas is meant for 24p editing...it removes pulldown too if you shot in 24pa.
Thats one of the best things about Vegas, plus its easy to use.
 
Jubal28 will be happy to hear me say ;-) that given your constraints, Vegas is certainly much better than FCP.... which won't run on Windows.
 
If you're working in 24p, Vegas is better, period. I said it; I stand by it.

This does not mean that Vegas is better in absolutely every respect.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

Do you guys have a preferred video card for use with Vegas 6.0? In general, what computer specs are optimal?

Thanks,
Prof. D.
 
Any video card will work for you. I prefere one with dual monitor outputs, but other than that, video card does not alter teh performance of your vegas experience.
 
Vegas is the best, easily. And it'll run on anything. Better components will = better performance, but you could probably get Vegas 6 to run on an old PIII system if you had to.
 
I like Vegas and I dont even have any use for its 24p capability.

But for it price it gives me everything i want in an editor (so far) and it very stable and user friendly.

one of the more important fetures for me was the 5.1 AC3 encoding.
 
Barry_Green said:
but you could probably get Vegas 6 to run on an old PIII system if you had to.
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I have it running on a PIII 300MHz system on Win2K. I, naturally, don't capture/edit/PTT on that system but it DOES run (and amazingly well). It makes a good test system - sort of a "worst case scenario".
 
So Vegas is the one. I will go with you guys recommendations. My research has indicated the same thing as well. Vegas seems to be the most reliable of the bunch too.

I'm now upgrading my computer system to handle editing. I'm a hands-on tech guy, so naturally I built my current computer from the ground up. A faster processor and more DDR memory is a piece of cake, but my question is about using an internal or external Firewire drive and also should I invest in a dual monitor video card? If so, do you guys have any preferences or recommendations? Also, what about the single of dual monitor issue? Any preferences?

Thanks,
Prof. D.
 
If cost is not a concern because you are able to build your own system I would recommend an external firewire drive because the portability issue is great. It will allow you to bring your projects to other people and just having that flexibility is great. Initially I went external because of my system (I run a build by numbers Dell system), and could get a lot of extra space through an external set up rather than to go through the manufacture for an internal one. The portability issue is great though. There are numerous times I bring the harddrive to other people and we'll just change the location of what we're working on. This is a great benefit.

Regarding dual monitors, it all depends and comes down to preference. Personally, as a Vegas user, I am not set up for dual monitors. I hate the fact that I cannot preview on another monitor and have to use a tiny window (no matter how much you stretch it out). For me the cost would immediately become mute because I like the feature. It does come down to preference though. One of the people I work with who does a lot of editing for me runs everything through two monitors and loves it. I run things off of one, and would prefer a dual monitor set up.

Honestly though, no one can answer what will work best for you, it is a personal preference.
 
yo soy un usuario de vegas tambien y me parece que el tema de las preferencias de sistemas de edicion se refiere mas al programa con el que aprendimos a editar. Las sensaciones de"don't feel right" se refieren a eso fundamentalmente. Me parece que vegas acepta 24p mas facilmente, pero fcp tiene opciones que definen lo que se entiende por "pro". Al final es un asunto de presupuesto.
 
pichulo said:
yo soy un usuario de vegas tambien y me parece que el tema de las preferencias de sistemas de edicion se refiere mas al programa con el que aprendimos a editar. Las sensaciones de"don't feel right" se refieren a eso fundamentalmente. Me parece que vegas acepta 24p mas facilmente, pero fcp tiene opciones que definen lo que se entiende por "pro". Al final es un asunto de presupuesto.
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English, please.
 
Policar said:
Okay, you get the idea, but I've tried to get used to Vegas and just can't. It doesn't feel right. The interface just doesn't seem to offer the same functionality or direct and intuitive interaction with the footage. You can do the same things, but the ways in which you go about doing them seems convoluted. A bit more streamlined, perhaps, but ultimately much less powerful.
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I feel that way about FCP (was just fritzing around with it last night, actually), but that's a matter of personal preference. (Here's something I couldn't do, and if there's a way to do it, please tell me how -- but there was a video clip in a folder (NOT in FCP) and I tried to drag it to the timeline, but it wouldn't drop. This is never a problem in Vegas, and it wasn't a problem in Edition, either. Is there a way to do it in FCP? Was I missing something? Or do you have to go through an "import" function?)


I hate to argue with a mod (well, not really) but the "better for 24p" argument is ridiculous and unfair. Vegas is quicker (you don't need to select "remove pulldown" from the capture menu which takes literally less than two seconds) but it also isn't natively 24p in that it keeps the extra frames lying around. Personally, I think this is a pain since the file has pulldown, but the project doesn't and it makes going to external editors a bit less fun plus forces you to use more HD space and processor power during playback. Then again, Vegas deals with dropped frames better and the capture interface is easier (though less "professional") than FCP. Both deal with 24pA great, and Final Cut Pro deals with 24p just fine contrary to what some people say, you just need to run it through cinema tools (I've never done this, since I shoot 24pA).
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I don't think it's "ridiculous and unfair" if you agree with the reasons we've given.


but if you have a fast Mac and time to learn FCP, you will love it and never want to use anything else. If you have a PC, though, get Vegas or Avid for sure, though.
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If I had a Mac and Vegas ran on a Mac, I'd still use Vegas. But it does not bother me in the slightest that it runs on machines which cost half as much.

What is it with all the FCPers coming in here to trash Vegas suddenly? I, for example, don't go trolling in the FCP section, and in fact I ask questions about it and try to help when I can. People use what they use, and that's good enough for me.

Here, someone asked a question, and I answered it. I didn't go looking for it.
 
Jubal28 said it dead on (plus you're from my town, so I have to agree because people in Charlotte need to unite, right?)

Vegas is the most streamlined and intuitive editor I have used. I think it's great. This is not to say that there aren't other programs that cannot do what Vegas does.

At the end of the day I look at it like Honda / Acura. Both are Honda's. They will both get you where you are going, and are built pretty much on the same platform. They pump out 100 Hondas to every Acura, and most people (based on sales numbers) prefer the Honda. There are those that want the extra luxury, pricetap, nameplate, and pizazz that comes with the Acura, but they are both freaking automobiles, it comes down to preference.

Weird analogy, but it's late. Then again, I just sold my Honda S2000 for an Acura. Bad analogy, but I still like Vegas.
 
LOL, Policar leave it alone. No one defends his gear more than David - no one, he's evangelical about it. You can't win!

Back away from the keyboard, slowly..... slowly....
 
A couple of quick points of clarification:
1. My analogy sucked, I admit it, but it was late, and I was tired.
2. My Honda cost more than my Acura and was higher performance regardless of the logo on the car.
3. Pull down or no pull down Vegas is set up perfectly for editing 24p.
4. Arguing over NLE's is pointless. Each system has their own strengths and weaknesses. One person might totally be able to exploit the strengths of one system while someone else can exploit the strengths of another, but Vegas is the 24p editor (in my opinion).
5. You said that this needs argument... I am more of a fan for animated discussion
6. The original poster builds his own PCs. In that instance Vegas is the ideal 24p program for him.
 
Now, now, now, now . . . I don’t defend Vegas *because* I use Vegas. I *use* Vegas, after trying many others, because it’s . . . well, read my posts.
 
I'm sure Vegas is a great program! As a Mac user I am one of those who have struggled doing things in FCP that should be easier I think. But I'm new to editing, may I would have struggled with any program. I don't doubt what you say (well sometimes) but more how you say it. After years of being on forums for sailboats, music, shooting, still photography, you name it - you are one of the biggest internet proselytizers that I've seen. My favorite part is when you tell OTHER folks that they've been brainwashed or taken the cool-aid because they have the audacity to defend THEIR gear. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
 
No, no, no . . . I only get into THAT for outrageous Mac Rulez! claims, such as Macs naturally having a “useful life” longer than PCs . . . whatever that means. Because people tend to use them longer? Of course! They cost twice as much, for the love of Mike, so upgrading happens more often in the PC world. That particular line smacked of excuse-making (it was in reference to a limitation of FCP – sorry, ullanta), so I called it.

Like I said, I don’t go looking for this stuff. Someone asked which we thought was better for use with the DVX and why; I assume they were intentionally looking for advantages Vegas has, and I call ‘em as I see ‘em. I never throw down first, but I don’t back down once it starts. I freely point out where FCP has advantages over Vegas, such as native support for DVCPRO and increasing industry acceptance.

I also never make it about Macs vs. PCs, but when someone tries to do that, yes, the Kool-Aid comments do tend to slip.

I hope everyone gets that none of it personal.
 
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