Is this what you call the "Film Burn" effect?

I'm not sure if this is a burn effect. Maybe some else will know better.

But just looking at it, it looks like a script could be written that would do the same thing, if FCP has scripting and to what extend it allows access to the desired variables.
But, it looks to me like random noise applied to the green and red channels as well as the brightness channel. The blue channel appears constant ( guessing right now, I haven't checked/examined it).

So you could have one noise mixing the red and green depths and then the second noise mixing those with the brightness channel.

Seems to me. If there's no plugin or script for it, I'm pretty sure someone could do that for you without a great deal of effort. Assuming again that FCP scripting allows access to those variables.

Just a thought. I may even have a look at it later if it's not already available.

//Edit: Or , I suppose if the effect isn't too long in your shots you could experiment animating those red, green, brightness parameters and see how that works. A little time consuming but if it's just a one time deal, then that might be quicker.
-Just a couple thoughts.

// Or maybe there 'is' a plugin for it. :)

//Fixed a typo to: "So you could have one noise mixing the red and green depths and then the second noise mixing those with the brightness channel."
 
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I don't know whether my definitions will line up with theirs or not...

Film Burn, as I'm used to it, is the look that happens when the film melts in the projector. Looks nothing like that.

What that effect is, in the video you showed, is what happens at the beginning or end of a film roll. Like, with a Super 8 camera, the cartridge will have a couple of inches of film exposed when you first load it, and when you finish off the roll, and that film will be exposed to the light and "flashed". I guess people might call that "film burn", I'm not sure.
 
Barry_Green said:
I don't know whether my definitions will line up with theirs or not...

Film Burn, as I'm used to it, is the look that happens when the film melts in the projector. Looks nothing like that.

What that effect is, in the video you showed, is what happens at the beginning or end of a film roll. Like, with a Super 8 camera, the cartridge will have a couple of inches of film exposed when you first load it, and when you finish off the roll, and that film will be exposed to the light and "flashed". I guess people might call that "film burn", I'm not sure.
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That what my recollection was too. You see the film melt and "burn" away.

That was more of a color flare.
 
At least I now know that it's not called the burn effect.. Thanks for clearing that up guys. And Gord, those sound like some really good suggestion, thank very much for giving your input. Although it does sound like some basic animation effects, i'm still too noob to even figure out how to do that in fcp.

I'm assuming that it has to be a plugin because I've seen this very same effect in quite a few videos. So does anyone know the exact name of this effect?
 
That is called a flash frame transition and is available as a plug in. it is bundled with a lot of film effects plug ins. I have it in FCP as "Film Flash" in a "G Film" plug in bundle. I don't remember where I got that though. Sorry.
 
semajha said:
Is it from here David? http://www.nattress.com/Products/filmeffects/filmeffects.htm

$100 sounds very reasonable but I'm not about to spend that much on just one effect. Was the fx plugin worth it too you?
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I wouldn't buy that for that effect. I went into it and it doesn't replicate the look that you are wanting. It does replicate the film flash/roll out effect, but does not give control of the colors, or the weave.

It may be easier to layer in a stock shot of the film roll out flash frames.

Artbeats has a clip, but they are expensive.

http://www.artbeats.com/clips/2252?standard_id=2403

Shutterstock has one that is similar, but downloadable at a reasonable price.

http://footage.shutterstock.com/clip-304468-orange-film-looping-background.html

Here is a tutorial from Art Beats that includes FCP.

http://www.artbeats.com/video_tutorials/12
 
Thanks man, you've been a big help.. I watched that Art Beat tutorial and found out that the proper name for that FX is called "Light Leaks" Finding this effect should be a whole lot easier now.. From what I'm understanding about it so far.. in order to get good looking light leaks, it's better to use an actually footage of it and blend it in with a clip.
 
Its emulating what is called on/offing, in a film camera. You switch the motor on and off really quickly for the effect...

everytime you turn a 35mm camera on and off it takes a second forthe film to reach 24 fps, so what happens is you get a few frames that are terribly overexposed in fast motion. look here... The color can happen when there is a behind the lens filter tray is removed allowing a light leak. It cant happen in video, other than post, period.



Also:

http://www.nydp.tv/Sixxxteen.html

These are real on/off flares. they arent as heavy or pronounced unless the effect is intentional... the second example wit hthe color flaring is intentional. Brian told me they used a broken camera to get the effect.
 
TimurCivan said:
Its emulating what is called on/offing, in a film camera. You switch the motor on and off really quickly for the effect...

everytime you turn a 35mm camera on and off it takes a second forthe film to reach 24 fps, so what happens is you get a few frames that are terribly overexposed in fast motion. look here... The color can happen when there is a behind the lens filter tray is removed allowing a light leak. It cant happen in video, other than post, period.



Also:

http://www.nydp.tv/Sixxxteen.html

These are real on/off flares. they arent as heavy or pronounced unless the effect is intentional... the second example wit hthe color flaring is intentional. Brian told me they used a broken camera to get the effect.
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Oh man, that brings back the ol' spring wound Bolex "Sphincter pucker" days. I bought a used Rex 4 that had horrible light leak problems. It leaked around the door and the behind the lens filter holder. What a nightmare. Every time we reloaded, we had to tape it up like crazy with black camera tape, and pray we got it right. Most times we did. Though, I can't complain, the footage shot with the Rex 4 intercut, shot to shot, with footage shot with an ARRI SRII, but getting it was nerve racking. It is funny now we are trying to replicate this film error look, as cool visual funk! Probably the best funky color film effects is the look at the heads and tail of a 16mm color (negative or reversal) 100' daylight loading spool, not changed in total darkness (in a changing bag or tent). You get that color wash, to white, with the side splotches also. I went back and looked at some 16mm raw footage, that I have digitized and readily available, but it was shot on 400' rolls. It has some start stop flashes, but they are very short. I was going to try to use them to put together as a filter I could use for this effect but it won't work. Each one of them funks up from clean shots of the footage being shot, and end too quickly. That Art Beats footage is probably the best, simplest way to get the look, but it ain't cheap.
 
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