Hi, recently I've been expirementing with the action movie genre, everything was looking better and better until it seems we've hit a platuea. Nothing Seems fresh, new or cool to watch anymore. I try diffenerent things but nothing seems to hit that spark. Is there any cool real looking things I can try? So far I've been Shooting all the punches and things over the shoulder creating a nice effect along with the other actor reacting to each punch, then the next shot is the actor falling down then the actor who was beating him say pick up a bat, swing halfway down then a front or another over the shoulder to show him coming down on the guy with the bat. Is there anything else anyone does for a cool fight scene or should I just work on this technique?
Is There More To a Fight Scene?
- Thread starter zepheadjc
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check out www.stuntpeople.com for some incredible fight scenes. better than most anything you'll see coming out of hollywood.
thanks
keith
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keith
maverickstunts
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this website
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takes you to a site to buy stuntpeople.com
I would certainly like to see "incredible fight scenes. better than most anything you'll see coming out of hollywood"!
this website
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takes you to a site to buy stuntpeople.com
I would certainly like to see "incredible fight scenes. better than most anything you'll see coming out of hollywood"!
maverickstunts
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zepheadjc
It would be nice to see something that you are experimenting with. I have been a stunt coordinator and 2nd unit director for about 24 years. I would be happy to help you, but I need to see something.
What you should remember is that you need "cause and effect" Reasons for the fight so the acting or set up is as important as the fight itself. Use different weapons, surfboards, golf clubs things like that. Two fights that are outstanding are the fight in the cargo bay of the L1011 in Passenger 57 and the fight in the fishing store in Ladyhawke. Both choreographed by Glenn Wilder. A fight that I choreographed on Reno 911 didn't have any punches in it. We used tables, chairs, kids toys, and a bbq as well as laundry to stage the fight. Imagination and hand held camera work help as well.
It would be nice to see something that you are experimenting with. I have been a stunt coordinator and 2nd unit director for about 24 years. I would be happy to help you, but I need to see something.
What you should remember is that you need "cause and effect" Reasons for the fight so the acting or set up is as important as the fight itself. Use different weapons, surfboards, golf clubs things like that. Two fights that are outstanding are the fight in the cargo bay of the L1011 in Passenger 57 and the fight in the fishing store in Ladyhawke. Both choreographed by Glenn Wilder. A fight that I choreographed on Reno 911 didn't have any punches in it. We used tables, chairs, kids toys, and a bbq as well as laundry to stage the fight. Imagination and hand held camera work help as well.
maverickstunts
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Interesting that you think this stuff is better than Hollywood.
mts4243369
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are you kidding hollywood sucks compared to that
Drew Ott
Wish I were banned.
Those fight scenes were just a bunch of very fast cuts and stock audio punching effects. Did you believe that what you were watching actually took place? The reactions were a split second slow on every single impact.
Also, even if that was better than a lot of fight scenes from Hollywood (I disagree), it is ignorant to make such a claim unless you have scene every Hollywood movie (and I have a feeling you haven't).
Also, even if that was better than a lot of fight scenes from Hollywood (I disagree), it is ignorant to make such a claim unless you have scene every Hollywood movie (and I have a feeling you haven't).
actualy they do make contact, watch some of there outtakes and what you see is what you get, i've seen them live and theres no trick photography, no wires and if george lucas thought they were good enough to have them represent the jedis in a live performance, they must be doing somthing right. sorry my comment upset some people but i think there stuff is better then most , not all, of the stuff coming out of hollywood. also to add to maverickstunts list, anything jackie chan has done has amazing use of surroundings in a fight sequence.
thanks
keith
and bene was the coolest hood
thanks
keith
and bene was the coolest hood
filmmaker58
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Try Fightscenes For Motion Pictures at www.kbproducts.com
tmnt
King of Australia
Ong-bak is hands down the best fight movie with the best fight scenes in a long time.
Instead of 100 cuts in .5 of a second they'll do a few moves or even an entire scene in on take.
Fights are supposed to be adrenalin packed and raw and I think this approach really hits the mark.
Instead of 100 cuts in .5 of a second they'll do a few moves or even an entire scene in on take.
Fights are supposed to be adrenalin packed and raw and I think this approach really hits the mark.
iancarleton
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mindzeye
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direct from your best choreography or fight move then work backwards... sorry that didn't make sense huh?? okay... figure out what THE ULTIMATE finishing move is and then choreograph backwards... use as much space as possible... usually if you try to keep your fight scene in such a confined space it seems to look pretty fake...breaking stuff on your set always makes it seem alot more realistic too. shake up that camera.... it always adds to the drama!!
