Is the DJI mic 2 worth it with the fx6?

[scorsesefan]

Thinking of picking up a DJI Mic 2 with Sony shoe adapter for some run and gun work. Ease of use, no cables and 32 bit float are the main attractions. I already own a few Tentacle Track E's, G4s and a Rode Go II set. Anyone use the DJI in a professional set up? Thanks

 

[rob norton]

Non-UHF systems still feel like they should be relegated to bonus recordings via the rx, but you're talking about 32 bit float recording straight to the transmitter?

Sounds like a great set up, but I don't think a UHF system from Sony or Sennheiser is hard to use, or has annoying cables.

It depends what you mean by run and gun, there are times I appreciate AAs, rather than having to charge yet another device via USB-C in some random hotel room.

What's the latest with these systems, is the DJI mic 2 leading the pack? Or is there a better RODE option?

I'm a fan of fewer post steps even though syncing is pretty easy.

 

[scorsesefan]

Non-UHF systems still feel like they should be relegated to bonus recordings via the rx, but you're talking about 32 bit float recording straight to the transmitter?

Sounds like a great set up, but I don't think a UHF system from Sony or Sennheiser is hard to use, or has annoying cables.

It depends what you mean by run and gun, there are times I appreciate AAs, rather than having to charge yet another device via USB-C in some random hotel room.

What's the latest with these systems, is the DJI mic 2 leading the pack? Or is there a better RODE option?

I'm a fan of fewer post steps even though syncing is pretty easy.

Hey, Rob. The dji records 32bit to TX, correct. The setup with the g4's is a bit more involved i.e. scanning freqs, etc. than the DJI mics. I pretty much wanted a mic that I can drop on a podium or something an not have to worry about clipping or post sync...

 

[rob norton]

Is this right:
- transmitted audio that's the audio channel for each video clip, via rx, and
- an option for separate audio clips recorded inside the actual transmitter?

Are they both 32 bit float? Then you have the choice to use recordings from inside the transmitter if, for example, there's interference from the wireless?

 

[DustinSchmidt]

I've got a DJI Mic 2 set. It's been helpful on a few occasions actually. There has been a lot of other companies making versions of the same thing of course.

One of the big things I like about the DJI Mic 2 is the ability to hook up a lav mic to the transmitter. I'm not a fan of having the transmitter clipped to the front of a shirt, although it's become more accepted nowadays, so being able to hide it and put a lav somewhere more proper is nice.

I thought I'd do a quick video with mine into my iPhone, just for kicks. The majority of my use cases with it have been into a proper cinema camera or mirrorless.

I also happened to pull out the DJI Mic 2 for an NIL job awhile back where my Sennheiser G3 setup had a bit of a hiccup. The cheap microdot connector I'd purchased for one of my lavs broke, and so I had only one working G3 set for a 2 person setup. I ended up putting a DJI transmitter on each of these athletes, in addition to a boom we had going. It's not my favorite audio, but it got the job done.

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Overall I recommend the Mic 2. But I'm totally unaware of what else might be out there at this point.

 

[scorsesefan]

I've got a DJI Mic 2 set. It's been helpful on a few occasions actually. There has been a lot of other companies making versions of the same thing of course.

One of the big things I like about the DJI Mic 2 is the ability to hook up a lav mic to the transmitter. I'm not a fan of having the transmitter clipped to the front of a shirt, although it's become more accepted nowadays, so being able to hide it and put a lav somewhere more proper is nice.

I thought I'd do a quick video with mine into my iPhone, just for kicks. The majority of my use cases with it have been into a proper cinema camera or mirrorless.

I also happened to pull out the DJI Mic 2 for an NIL job awhile back where my Sennheiser G3 setup had a bit of a hiccup. The cheap microdot connector I'd purchased for one of my lavs broke, and so I had only one working G3 set for a 2 person setup. I ended up putting a DJI transmitter on each of these athletes, in addition to a boom we had going. It's not my favorite audio, but it got the job done.

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Overall I recommend the Mic 2. But I'm totally unaware of what else might be out there at this point.

Thanks, Dustin. I'll check out your vids.

 

[rob norton]

I've got a DJI Mic 2 set. It's been helpful on a few occasions actually. There has been a lot of other companies making versions of the same thing of course.

One of the big things I like about the DJI Mic 2 is the ability to hook up a lav mic to the transmitter. I'm not a fan of having the transmitter clipped to the front of a shirt, although it's become more accepted nowadays, so being able to hide it and put a lav somewhere more proper is nice.

I thought I'd do a quick video with mine into my iPhone, just for kicks. The majority of my use cases with it have been into a proper cinema camera or mirrorless.

I also happened to pull out the DJI Mic 2 for an NIL job awhile back where my Sennheiser G3 setup had a bit of a hiccup. The cheap microdot connector I'd purchased for one of my lavs broke, and so I had only one working G3 set for a 2 person setup. I ended up putting a DJI transmitter on each of these athletes, in addition to a boom we had going. It's not my favorite audio, but it got the job done.

Oklahoma Lottery on Instagram: "Simple question…will it scratch? Watch as Lyrik and Trent put some football gear to the ultimate test—scratching! #OKLottery #OklahomaWins #OKState #GoPokes #CowboyFootball"

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Overall I recommend the Mic 2. But I'm totally unaware of what else might be out there at this point.

How does the transmitter recording sound vs. the iphone?

My last post: "Are they both 32 bit float?". I wasn't thinking, the fx6 obviously doesn't have 32 bit float audio.

If recording to the transmitter, I'm assuming you're either recording long clips, or starting/stopping remotely if that's possible. I know how easy syncing is in resolve, but it'd be cool if there was an option for the transmitter recording to be triggered from the camera start/stop, through the DJI receiver. If this happened, wouldn't this eliminate one of the main advantages of UHF, i.e. better transmission?

 

[scorsesefan]

How does the transmitter recording sound vs. the iphone?

My last post: "Are they both 32 bit float?". I wasn't thinking, the fx6 obviously doesn't have 32 bit float audio.

If recording to the transmitter, I'm assuming you're either recording long clips, or starting/stopping remotely if that's possible. I know how easy syncing is in resolve, but it'd be cool if there was an option for the transmitter recording to be triggered from the camera start/stop, through the DJI receiver. If this happened, wouldn't this eliminate one of the main advantages of UHF, i.e. better transmission?

Yeah, I think the only camera that is 32bit internal is the Nikon ZR. That would be nice if you could remote start/stop the transmitter as recorder.

 

[DustinSchmidt]

How does the transmitter recording sound vs. the iphone?

My last post: "Are they both 32 bit float?". I wasn't thinking, the fx6 obviously doesn't have 32 bit float audio.

If recording to the transmitter, I'm assuming you're either recording long clips, or starting/stopping remotely if that's possible. I know how easy syncing is in resolve, but it'd be cool if there was an option for the transmitter recording to be triggered from the camera start/stop, through the DJI receiver. If this happened, wouldn't this eliminate one of the main advantages of UHF, i.e. better transmission?

Good question regarding the transmitter vs. the iPhone. I haven't done that direct audio comparison. I would assume they sound the same as long as nothing is clipped on the iPhone audio, but would have to check.

You can set the transmitter to start recording internally immediately upon power up, so you at least have that option. I'm not sure about triggering it through a camera start/stop. I don't believe that's possible.

 

[rob norton]

Good question regarding the transmitter vs. the iPhone. I haven't done that direct audio comparison. I would assume they sound the same as long as nothing is clipped on the iPhone audio, but would have to check.

You can set the transmitter to start recording internally immediately upon power up, so you at least have that option. I'm not sure about triggering it through a camera start/stop. I don't believe that's possible.

If it gets to a point where the transmitter files let you 1:1 replace the audio from the video clip, then what's the point of a UHF system?

- locking connector
- build quality
- AA batteries
- one less step in post

If we take one of the biggest UHF selling points out of the equation and remove one of the biggest pain points of wireless/bluetooth systems, then is UHF starting to be in trouble?

I guess you wouldn't actually be monitoring the tx recording, even though through the rx would give a pretty good idea. I don't think you can monitor the tx remotely, but even if you could, it'd be pretty annoying monitoring with an app.

No locking connector on the DJI mic 2 likely makes it too risky for pro work for me, but it doesn't seem too far off a UHF replacement. But maybe they'll never quite get there? They're obviously already excellent for phone video integration and adding non-critical audio as a bonus, back up, or hard to reach places.but I'm just wondering if there's a way for newer prosumer audio gear to fit with exisiting pro solo shooter requirements. Products like a sony uwp-d27 or your zaxcom are still no brainers for higher stakes work.

 

[Andy9]

I rented a pair for a very low-budget job a few weeks ago. Very easy to set up and nice to use. Two downsides for me though:

1. A tiny bit of latency - not enough to be a problem, it just made monitoring slightly unpleasant.
2. Clock drift on the 32bit files. I took it for granted that I'd just be using the wireless signal for monitoring and the real audio would be the file recorded to the TX. I had the two transmitters set to start recording as soon as I took them out of the case. When I synced the two files (interviewer / interviewee) later I noticed that sometimes the audio sounded fine and then at other times there was comb filtering consistent with very minor sync drift. It wouldn't have mattered if it was a typical interviewer / interviewee scenario but it was very much a conversation, so in the end I had to do a lot of editing - switching between the transmitter and locally recorded audio. I suppose I was also unlucky that this was a one-hour interview.

It made me think that when I finally replace my old G3s I'll be looking further upmarket than DJI.

 

[scorsesefan]

I rented a pair for a very low-budget job a few weeks ago. Very easy to set up and nice to use. Two downsides for me though:

1. A tiny bit of latency - not enough to be a problem, it just made monitoring slightly unpleasant.
2. Clock drift on the 32bit files. I took it for granted that I'd just be using the wireless signal for monitoring and the real audio would be the file recorded to the TX. I had the two transmitters set to start recording as soon as I took them out of the case. When I synced the two files (interviewer / interviewee) later I noticed that sometimes the audio sounded fine and then at other times there was comb filtering consistent with very minor sync drift. It wouldn't have mattered if it was a typical interviewer / interviewee scenario but it was very much a conversation, so in the end I had to do a lot of editing - switching between the transmitter and locally recorded audio. I suppose I was also unlucky that this was a one-hour interview.

It made me think that when I finally replace my old G3s I'll be looking further upmarket than DJI.

Which units did you rent?

 

[DustinSchmidt]

I rented a pair for a very low-budget job a few weeks ago. Very easy to set up and nice to use. Two downsides for me though:

1. A tiny bit of latency - not enough to be a problem, it just made monitoring slightly unpleasant.

The latency on some of these systems can be pretty annoying.

I used to work with the Sennheiser AVX system which had a roughly 19ms delay.

Very tiny and clever system that had some benefits, but just as many cons in my opinion.