Is shooting at 1/30 shutter, a good idea?

refocusedmedia said:
Well, the Zacuto shootouts prove otherwise. Useable at least up to ISO 1600 as are all Canons with the same APS-C sensor.
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Maybe. If you wash the scene in soft light and have no black, nor real darks. Which is almost never the case when you need high ISOs.
Alternatively, their sensor is different than mine or we have different criteria for "useable". :)
I shoot raw stills occasionally at 1600 and they are passable (limited tonality and lacking color due to high gain abusing the channels, but useable at decent exposure). I will never shoot a video I care about at 1600 on this sensor.
 
Then you are a lucky man to never have to shoot live concerts, public speaking events, documentaries, or anything else that might force you into a poorly lit area on relatively slow lenses. Not all of us can be that lucky.
 
That's how I feel about 3200 on FF. I'll go there in a situation where lighting is 100% not an option, but really try to avoid it. 1600 is passable, 1250 is OK, try to stay 800 and below if possible.
 
j1clark@ucsd.edu said:
I think the poster is getting dismissive about the ultimate 'quality' no matter what is done, given that you are using a 't2i'....
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You're right, actually - I was being a little dismissive and probably posted too soon. I apologize. What I was getting at (in an unclear and indirect way) is that it seems the OP is working on a micro (or zero) budget, which means he probably doesn't have much luxury of choice when it comes to choosing his crew. Again I'm probably assuming too much though.

My advice to the OP: Take all these opinions and allow them to shape your thinking to some degree, but ultimately go with what your gut and learn from whatever pros or cons eventuate.
 
brynsank said:
You're right, actually - I was being a little dismissive and probably posted too soon. I apologize. What I was getting at (in an unclear and indirect way) is that it seems the OP is working on a micro (or zero) budget, which means he probably doesn't have much luxury of choice when it comes to choosing his crew. Again I'm probably assuming too much though.

My advice to the OP: Take all these opinions and allow them to shape your thinking to some degree, but ultimately go with what your gut and learn from whatever pros or cons eventuate.
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I see it like this... the nolo budget is where someone learns to 'manage'... and as a director, find ways to either 1) get those who volunteer to see and create the 'vision', or 2) learn to 'part company'... heck there's no pay out on unfulfilled contracts... and find the right/better/morewillingtoworkwith person...

I recently directed a short film, after several years of not being able to collect a cohesive group to get something done... Since I was the director, the photographer was a young guy with a 5DMKIII (these young single types...). When talking about 'shooting', some of his first statements were 'I don't shoot wide open'... 'usually about f4-f/5.6'... 'I don't usually shoot over ISO 640... If he had been the 'shoot wide open'... 'shoot high ISO' type... perhaps we would have had a different conversation... and perhaps I would have 'shot the film' in addition to directing... we did have a few words about shooting at 30p and then outputing at 23.976 fps... so we shot at 23.976 fps... but there wasn't a great amount of debate... El Jeffe Director said "23.976 fps' and that's what it was...

Of course I do have a bit more 'clout' in that I am coming from a 'photography' background... were as a director who has not shot much Film film or Digital film, if any, may not have that 'clout'.
 
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