iPOD is it usable
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Slapdragon
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Re: iPOD is it usable
It is usuable and very sturdy, but the mic connections leave a lot to be desired.
It is usuable and very sturdy, but the mic connections leave a lot to be desired.
weismangroup
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Re: iPOD is it usable
The mini jack on the Griffin iTalk is dual functional and can accept either an external mic or a headphone. The iPod only records in mono WAV files and at an 8mhz sample rate, which certainly limits its use for pro audio applications. I've used it to tape lectures and seminars, and for that it works fairly well.
All the best,
Michael
The mini jack on the Griffin iTalk is dual functional and can accept either an external mic or a headphone. The iPod only records in mono WAV files and at an 8mhz sample rate, which certainly limits its use for pro audio applications. I've used it to tape lectures and seminars, and for that it works fairly well.
All the best,
Michael
Re: iPOD is it usable
I certainly wouldn't use it for audio; the current capabilities are far below what I'd use for sound work.
Dunno how it does as a portable hard drive, however; probably depends on your set up (i.e., using a laptop for recording and dumping that to the iPod, etc.)
I certainly wouldn't use it for audio; the current capabilities are far below what I'd use for sound work.
Dunno how it does as a portable hard drive, however; probably depends on your set up (i.e., using a laptop for recording and dumping that to the iPod, etc.)
weismangroup
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Re: iPOD is it usable
As a portable hard drive it works very well. The data stream is not fast enough to capture or playback hi res video, but file transfer is very quick via the firewire. In fact, during the making of the Lord of the Rings, the digital dailies were delivered to Peter Jackson on an iPod. Check out this link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/columns/tech_reporter_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2077623
--Michael
As a portable hard drive it works very well. The data stream is not fast enough to capture or playback hi res video, but file transfer is very quick via the firewire. In fact, during the making of the Lord of the Rings, the digital dailies were delivered to Peter Jackson on an iPod. Check out this link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/columns/tech_reporter_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2077623
--Michael
Re: iPOD is it usable
[quote author=Michael_W link=board=audio;num=1090214167;start=0#5 date=07/20/04 at 15:07:58]As a portable hard drive it works very well. The data stream is not fast enough to capture or playback hi res video, but file transfer is very quick via the firewire. In fact, during the making of the Lord of the Rings, the digital dailies were delivered to Peter Jackson on an iPod. Check out this link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/columns/tech_reporter_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2077623
--Michael[/quote]
Well, guess that's good enough for me..... ;D Sorta figured that was the case, but haven't done enough to be sure...
[quote author=Michael_W link=board=audio;num=1090214167;start=0#5 date=07/20/04 at 15:07:58]As a portable hard drive it works very well. The data stream is not fast enough to capture or playback hi res video, but file transfer is very quick via the firewire. In fact, during the making of the Lord of the Rings, the digital dailies were delivered to Peter Jackson on an iPod. Check out this link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/columns/tech_reporter_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2077623
--Michael[/quote]
Well, guess that's good enough for me..... ;D Sorta figured that was the case, but haven't done enough to be sure...
DVX100Shooter
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Re: iPOD is it usable
I got an iPod but I didn't know you could do that! So based on that Hollywoodreporter article you can store quicktime video files on the ipod? Hmmmmm....
I got an iPod but I didn't know you could do that! So based on that Hollywoodreporter article you can store quicktime video files on the ipod? Hmmmmm....
Dave_Fisk
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Re: iPOD is it usable
You can store any type of files, but it's only storage. It's basically a fancy, expensive hard drive, that's all. To be honest with you, I don't think they're worth it. I'll buy one when they have a 5 inch color display so I can show quicktime movies on it to potential clients. I've never seen the need to have 2000 songs in one place at one time. You'll never listen to that many songs, especially in one sitting.
If all you need is storage, then just get a portable hard drive, like LaCie's pocket drives. They are cheaper, and more rugged.
-Dave
You can store any type of files, but it's only storage. It's basically a fancy, expensive hard drive, that's all. To be honest with you, I don't think they're worth it. I'll buy one when they have a 5 inch color display so I can show quicktime movies on it to potential clients. I've never seen the need to have 2000 songs in one place at one time. You'll never listen to that many songs, especially in one sitting.
If all you need is storage, then just get a portable hard drive, like LaCie's pocket drives. They are cheaper, and more rugged.
-Dave
Re: iPOD is it usable
I love my iPod--someone must have implanted a chip in me while I slept ;D. Having your entire music collection available anytime, anywhere is a revelation. At this point I view the CD with as much enthusiasm as a wax cylinder. They're bulky, they get borrowed and never returned, lost, they're not with you when you want them.
I love my iPod--someone must have implanted a chip in me while I slept ;D. Having your entire music collection available anytime, anywhere is a revelation. At this point I view the CD with as much enthusiasm as a wax cylinder. They're bulky, they get borrowed and never returned, lost, they're not with you when you want them.
Dave_Fisk
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Re: iPOD is it usable
Hmmm.... I totally disagree.
CD's couldn't be any less bulky. I don't let people borrow them, and they are always where I want' them. In my car (which has a CD player built in, not an MP3 player) or apartment. I don't need to have them with me at work, because I can't listen to music then. I don't need to listen to music while at the mall.
I just never saw the need to have 2000 songs in one place. I'm never going to listen to that many songs. I like to have smaller playlists of 10 or 12 songs, which is perfect for a CD. It's easier to deal with.
Oh, and MP3's sound bad. I have maybe one or two that sound good.
The only reason I could think of that I would want an iPod is for on set playback. I know a couple of production sound mixers that have 500 gigs of MP3's. They pretty much have anything you are looking for, and when the director or producer ask for a song for whatever reason, they have it.
To each his own, I guess.
-Dave
Hmmm.... I totally disagree.
CD's couldn't be any less bulky. I don't let people borrow them, and they are always where I want' them. In my car (which has a CD player built in, not an MP3 player) or apartment. I don't need to have them with me at work, because I can't listen to music then. I don't need to listen to music while at the mall.
I just never saw the need to have 2000 songs in one place. I'm never going to listen to that many songs. I like to have smaller playlists of 10 or 12 songs, which is perfect for a CD. It's easier to deal with.
Oh, and MP3's sound bad. I have maybe one or two that sound good.
The only reason I could think of that I would want an iPod is for on set playback. I know a couple of production sound mixers that have 500 gigs of MP3's. They pretty much have anything you are looking for, and when the director or producer ask for a song for whatever reason, they have it.
To each his own, I guess.
-Dave
Re: iPOD is it usable
Marantz PMD-670 Professional Compact Flash Stereo Portable Recorder
Any opinions as far as this unit goes for recording audio say compared to a DAT recorder?
I used a minidisc recently to record off a mixer from a band and was very unhappy.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=283850&is=REG
Marantz PMD-670 Professional Compact Flash Stereo Portable Recorder
Any opinions as far as this unit goes for recording audio say compared to a DAT recorder?
I used a minidisc recently to record off a mixer from a band and was very unhappy.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=283850&is=REG
Re: iPOD is it usable
[quote author=Boomerang link=board=audio;num=1090214167;start=0#13 date=07/28/04 at 20:10:35]Marantz PMD-670 Professional Compact Flash Stereo Portable Recorder (?)
....I used a minidisc recently to record off a mixer from a band and was very unhappy.
[/quote]
The PMD-670 looks like a good portable recorder to me, since it can do uncompressed WAV files, and has XLR inputs and supports phantom power for mics. Note that the SNR spec on this unit (86 dB line, 65 dB mic) are OK, but not as good as you might expect for pro gear.
I use a HHB MDP-500 which is a "pro" minidisc set that looks physically rather like the Marantz you're looking at (XLR inputs etc.) If the Marantz had been available two years ago I'd probably have bought it instead (even now the HHB is still over $1k). I am well aware of the theoretical loss with ATRAC (MD compression) but I have never been able to hear an audible difference between my MD and uncompressed recordings. Note there are different types; HHB uses ATRAC 4.5 which is the best quality one.
Compression is only part of the story, there is a lot of harm that can happen in the analog input stages if you run hot levels into consumer gear (significant distortion, but short of hard clipping). My point is if you were "very unhappy" with the MD recording, my guess is there is some other problem in the recording chain besides just that it's in MD format at the end, so you should find out what it was; simply changing the record format may not fix it.
[quote author=Boomerang link=board=audio;num=1090214167;start=0#13 date=07/28/04 at 20:10:35]Marantz PMD-670 Professional Compact Flash Stereo Portable Recorder (?)
....I used a minidisc recently to record off a mixer from a band and was very unhappy.
[/quote]
The PMD-670 looks like a good portable recorder to me, since it can do uncompressed WAV files, and has XLR inputs and supports phantom power for mics. Note that the SNR spec on this unit (86 dB line, 65 dB mic) are OK, but not as good as you might expect for pro gear.
I use a HHB MDP-500 which is a "pro" minidisc set that looks physically rather like the Marantz you're looking at (XLR inputs etc.) If the Marantz had been available two years ago I'd probably have bought it instead (even now the HHB is still over $1k). I am well aware of the theoretical loss with ATRAC (MD compression) but I have never been able to hear an audible difference between my MD and uncompressed recordings. Note there are different types; HHB uses ATRAC 4.5 which is the best quality one.
Compression is only part of the story, there is a lot of harm that can happen in the analog input stages if you run hot levels into consumer gear (significant distortion, but short of hard clipping). My point is if you were "very unhappy" with the MD recording, my guess is there is some other problem in the recording chain besides just that it's in MD format at the end, so you should find out what it was; simply changing the record format may not fix it.