Intensity and preview output

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WpgCameraMan

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Got around to hooking up an HDMI monitor to my GTS250, which already fed an RGB 1920x1080 and DVI-D 1280x1024 pair. Much to my joy, my card reports it cannot handle 3 displays at once, which shoots down my idea of using a 3rd panel for a preview monitor in Premiere.

So I was looking at the Black Magic Intensity as a way to feed that 3rd panel. Does Premiere send out what you are scrubbing (for both preview & program) , or just the program scrub?

My CS4 system only has one SLI slot, so another video card isn't an option, and there's no USB 3.0. I really dig the idea of the Shuttle, but I'm a long while away from 3.0.

Short of a Quadro & CS5, any chance of my AVCHD edits seeing a speed boost in some way with this card?
 
Only if using one of the Intensity presets. Personally, I would look at getting a USB 3 card. The original Intensity/Intensity Pro only does 1080i, 720p60/50, and 480i. The Shuttle adds 1080p24/25, 1080p30. and 480p as well.
 
Smifis said:
Get a cheap PCI Graphic card. these plug into the white slots on your motherboard
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I thought those old PCI video cards would slow a system down to a crawl.. no?

How should I delegate what cards do what display? I'm guessing the GTS250 does the preview/program/timeline screen (via VGA), the scrub output (via DVI-D or HDMI) and the PCI card could handle the screen that has my bins ??

I've got an old Matrox Milennium II with I think 32mb on it.. not sure if it will work under Windows 7.

My main worry is that if/when I move to CS5 , I might also go for a much better nVidia card, but I don't quite understand how that GPU-assist would help if I'm actually viewing things through a USB 3.0 card and then the Shuttle. Seems like a hell of a lot of data being moved around through somewhat incompatible paths.

I mean, if a GTX2XX has a frame of AVCHD ready to be displayed, it's going to take lots of CPU time to move it off the GPU card and fire it down the 3.0 path.

All these options seem like my system will be bogged down no matter what I do.

I also tried to use my FireWire as an output option, but my camera doesn't 'see' anything coming through. Plus at best I would get a Y/C signal, good enough for a quick eyeball on things, but not enough detail when working with FullHD material. (I'm working on an SD-DV project right now, I'll try this again, maybe the FireWire only works with DV-based projects).

Maybe I'll try a new workspace arrangement , see how that goes. I can make my preview & program windows much smaller now.

Just a matter of finding the right balance for things.
 
WpgCameraMan said:
I thought those old PCI video cards would slow a system down to a crawl.. no?

I've got an old Matrox Milennium II with I think 32mb on it.. not sure if it will work under Windows 7.
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I appears you are getting the old AGP and PCI card's mixed up. AGP cards are different to PCI Cards in every way physically possible. Something such as this would work.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130498

WpgCameraMan said:
How should I delegate what cards do what display? I'm guessing the GTS250 does the preview/program/timeline screen (via VGA), the scrub output (via DVI-D or HDMI) and the PCI card could handle the screen that has my bins ??
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Everything is processed by the CPU which is why generally the graphics card has very little impact on the performance in video editing - it is just displaying what the CPU has made - however, if you a have a support card for CS5, you may be able to take advantage of the Adobe's Mercury Playback Engine.[/quote]

WpgCameraMan said:
My main worry is that if/when I move to CS5 , I might also go for a much better nVidia card, but I don't quite understand how that GPU-assist would help if I'm actually viewing things through a USB 3.0 card and then the Shuttle. Seems like a hell of a lot of data being moved around through somewhat incompatible paths.
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Simple, what happens in instead of the data being processed on the CPU, most of it is done on the graphics card however, most of this is back-end and not actually visual so I wouldn't think have extra monitors pluged into PCI cards would affect performance however I'm not aware of anyone who has a similar setup.

WpgCameraMan said:
I also tried to use my FireWire as an output option, but my camera doesn't 'see' anything coming through. Plus at best I would get a Y/C signal, good enough for a quick eyeball on things, but not enough detail when working with FullHD material. (I'm working on an SD-DV project right now, I'll try this again, maybe the FireWire only works with DV-based projects).
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For a video feed to your deck/camera via firewire, you will need to set this up. This page should be able to help you with this http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WS1c9bc5c2e465a58a91cf0b1038518aef7-7cd1a.html

WpgCameraMan said:
Maybe I'll try a new workspace arrangement , see how that goes. I can make my preview & program windows much smaller now.

Just a matter of finding the right balance for things.
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It's just a matter of finding what you like.,
personally i have two screens, on my left, I have my Bin, effects and playback window and on my second monitor, I have the preview window and i have the timeline spanning across both screens
 
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