I think I learned my lesson

c.g._eads

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There is no way to slow down 24 frames per second and make it look good. I should've shot 60i huh?

It looks absolutely terrible on my TV, any movement at all causes ghosting all over the place. Ick! Any suggestions on how to make 24p slow-mo look good?
 
If you just slow down a 24pn clip with it's 3:2 pulldown - it'll look funky (aka: Ick). Do you have AE? If so, it can detect and remove the pulldown. Then you can slow it and render back out with or without pulldown added back it. The fact that you have only 24 "samples" per second is the really limiting factor. Some frame blending may help smooth things out depending on how slow you're trying to go.
 
24pa never slows down well, even in after effects with pulldown removed although it is better. Next time you will know go to go either 30p or 60i. Import 30p to 24p timeline and slow it down to 80% 60i into 24p slowdown to 40% really looks great. I got this from Barrys book originally but when shooting the 60i use 1/120th shut speed also.
 
how exactly do you remove the pulldown in after effects? The more specific you can get, the better, as I'm not an AE expert but do have the program.
 
When you bring the footage into AE and its sitting their in your library, right click it and choose "interpret footage". This brings up a dialouge box which allows you to choose pulldown (different for 24pa and 24p). For the best slow motion from this you will need either the twixtor plugin or someting like it. This will create new frames based off algorithims which will stop any ghosting, but the effect is someout... otherworldly, but can get get better with several days worth of masking the different elements. True slow motion cannot be replicated in post.
 
I use Twixtor on 24pA footage all the time and it works fine for me. I've been very pleased with the slow motion I've produced using AE/Twixtor. I don't think it's that "limiting" at all.
 
c.g._eads said:
Is Twixtor a free plug-in? Or am I looking at dropping a hundred bucks?

Not free although you can download a trial version to see if it will do what you want but it will set you back a few hundred bucks at least to own a copy. :(

http://www.revisionfx.com/rstwixtor.htm

I haven't tried it yet but the new 'timewarp' effect in AE Pro 7 is supposed to be a 'full-fledged retiming tool'. I expect to give this a try in a couple of weeks.

-Dan
 
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