HVX200 Update

I did a google search for p2 cards and i ran across a site that had a list of p2 cards that went up to 128 gb that held up to 8 hrs of video of course it varies depending on what frame rate u shoot but my question is r these 128 gb cards ready for sale already?
 
No, that same list you saw also likely included the anticipated timeframe. 128gb cards weren't due to be released until sometime around 2008. However, Samsung has made a breakthrough in NAND technology which will make 32gb SD cards available much, much, much sooner than anticipated (they say 2nd half of next year, which is only 8 months away!) So we could see 128gb P2 cards released in late 2006 possibly, or whenever the 32gb SD cards are in mass production. Expect them to be very, very, very expensive initially.
 
Why does everything need to be exspensive?!?!!!!

The HVX is indeed a killer camera that will rape nething in its path but...those cards like killl the buyer...its like buying a printer...

The printer itself is cheap....but the cartredges kill yah...

HVX is..well...not cheap..somewhat....and the P2 cards...are like massss exspensive if you only buy like 2-4...it like pays for the camera when you do the math...its ridiculous..

But what's that alternative recording technique for HVX? you like hook it up to a special harddrive or computer and it records with out any P2 cards needed?
 
Well, the firestore is coming out for it, that will cost less than one 8GB card but carry much more information. There are other manufacturers also vying for that business, so hopefully by NAB we will have some choices. You can also record to the computer directly using firewire.
 
also you gotta consider the realm your getting into.. Right now, if you want to shoot DVCpro HD your gonna be paying the same as a porsche. So its all relative.
 
I hate the high cost of HD........:cry:

Might as well wait like...5 years when the cameras become the same price of the standard 24p cams...
 
I just think of all my projects that were waiting for funding for HD, that are now coming off the backburner for just actors' fees and extra hard drive storage. I am putting in a 2.4TB SATA 190MB/sec. solution into my PC, which will host it for my FCP Mac. That leaves actors' fees : )
 
blckhawk542 said:
I hate the high cost of HD........:cry:

Might as well wait like...5 years when the cameras become the same price of the standard 24p cams...
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I second that, plus-you will have the advantage of getting any a or b models for what the "gotta have it now" people pay for the first model.
 
In 5 years the technology will evolve and you will have new equipment that cost either the same or more. Remember you can still shoot mini-dv with more resolution and native 16:9.
 
blckhawk542 said:
The HVX is indeed a killer camera that will rape nething in its path but...
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Hmmm, I wasn't familiar with that function. Hopefully it can be turned off if you so choose.

blckhawk542 said:
its like buying a printer...The printer itself is cheap....but the cartredges kill yah...
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I've heard this analogy batted around (along with the Gillette analogy with razors) and it really is a complete mistrepresentation of how P2 cards will function.

Are printer cartridges infintely reusable?
Can you buy 1 or 2 printer cartridges for the lift of your printer and never need another one?

No. You can't, and that's why your analogy doesn't hold.

Sure, the price may be high, but you're trying to compare it to DV tape.
Compare the cost of P2 cards to the cost of DVCProHD tape, do the math, and you'll see that in the end they aren't anything like 'printer cartridges"

If anything TAPE FORMATS are like printer cartridges.
I've been shooting wtih a camera that was paid off years ago....yet I still have to shell out the money for tape everytime I want to shoot.

Yes, the upfront cost is high, but the backend cost can be zero with the right setup.
Not like printer cartridges at all, and in fact I woudl argue that it's the exact opposite.
 
Luis Caffesse said:
If anything TAPE FORMATS are like printer cartridges.
I've been shooting wtih a camera that was paid off years ago....yet I still have to shell out the money for tape everytime I want to shoot.

Yes, the upfront cost is high, but the backend cost can be zero with the right setup.
Not like printer cartridges at all, and in fact I woudl argue that it's the exact opposite.
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Shooting costs are never zero. It would be with the P2, if you would just overwrite all your footage and never archive anything. The shooting costs of the P2-system are the price of the cards, which you'll only have to pay once + archive. Whether it is bluray or HVD-disc or harddrive's that you archive to, you'll still have to pay some money if you wan't to see your footage ever again. All those medias are "approximately" the same price as the minidv-tape per gigabyte (someone else can do the exact comparison...). It is ofcourse a big plus that you can shoot DVCPRO-HD 100 Mbit/s (25p 1080 / PAL), but that will take 4 times the gigabytes -> more costs. Ofcourse the prices for archiving will come down too.

I'm not trying to put down the HVX hype. I'm just trying to say, that it shouldn't be praised for it's "zero cost" of shooting, after you've bought the cards.

I think the real advantage of the HVX is DVCPRO-HD and not the P2, but the P2 just makes DVCPRO-HD possible (and the slow-motion!)

:)
 
This might be a strange question, but could influence the purchase of this camera for a client of mine, will the component outputs work in SD mode?
 
Edweirdo said:
I second that, plus-you will have the advantage of getting any a or b models for what the "gotta have it now" people pay for the first model.
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When you see the high cost of HD right now it makes you think SD for a few more years. I posted somewhere on what it would cost me to get into HD. The numbers were popping up $12,000 to $20,000 +. By the time you add monitors and computer upgrades, etc. To much for me. But once I get the cash I will probably get the DVX100B and let technolgy work it self out and get HD later down the road.
 
Zim said:
When you see the high cost of HD right now it makes you think SD for a few more years. I posted somewhere on what it would cost me to get into HD. The numbers were popping up $12,000 to $20,000 +. By the time you add monitors and computer upgrades, etc. To much for me. But once I get the cash I will probably get the DVX100B and let technolgy work it self out and get HD later down the road.
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thats what makes the HVX so attractive.. it is a very very capable SD camera, and you can switch to HD when your ready.
 
so when exactly is the hvx coming out...i heard a rumor not till NAB.....you guys wrote 4th quarter 2005.....but it is 4th quarter so is it soon????

just curious....how hard will it be to buy it once is comes out.....how bad of a back order will their be?
 
You'll probably find getting an xbox360 before christmas easier than finding an HVX. LOL.
 
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