HVX200 and Blu Ray

thefilmaddict

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HVX200 and Blu Ray

When talking archiving or backing up HVX200 footage, many of you bring up that Blu Ray may be the best solution in the future. My last camera was the Sony DSR 500. My work flow was:

1. Shoot DVCAM tape (this was my long term archive solution for the raw footage)
2. Digitize the tape(s) and edit
3. Put the final edit on a DVCAM master tape (another archive solution)
4. Export a file of the final edit to be used to make a DVD
5. Create a DVD in IDVD or DVD Studio Pro (this became the SD distribution solution)

My question is about the new work flow with the HVX200 and Blu Ray. Does this sound about right or am I missing something:

1. Shoot with the HVX200 onto P2 cards
2. Back up P2 files on Blu Ray Data Disks -- 50GB per disk (this becomes the loss-less archive solution for the raw footage -- several disks may be needed depending on the amount of footage involved)
3. Import P2 files and edit
4. Export a file of the final edit to be used to make Blu Ray Disks
5. Create Blu Ray disks that play on Blu Ray consumer machines (this becomes the HD distribution solution)
6. Export a loss-less file of the final edit to burn onto a Blu Ray Data Disk (this becomes the master archive solution -- you may have to break up your master timeline into several files if it won't fit onto 1 Blu Ray Disk)

I'm obviously hoping that the Blu Ray burner will be like the Mac Super Drive. That, like DVD's, you can write loss-less Blu Ray Data Disks AND you can also create compressed Blu Ray disks that can play HD Video and audio on a consumer Blu Ray Player.

Am I totally misunderstanding how Blu Ray will work and how it can be used with HVX200 footage??? Will it just be a stand alone HD video player/recorder or will it also be a drive that I can connect to my G5 (via firewire maybe)?

Also, I will be shooting 720 24p footage. Does this flavor of HD work well with Blu Ray or will other steps be involved? Will I have to do pull down? Will it have to be converted to 1080i?

Thanks for the info. This is all new to me. If Blu Ray works like DVD (Data storage or consumer video disk), I won't buy a back up solution until it comes out. I can just keep everything on my 1 TB sata G raid drive and pray that it doesn't die anytime soon! If I run out of space, I can painfully make DVD Data Disks.
 
thefilmaddict said:
I'm obviously hoping that the Blu Ray burner will be like the Mac Super Drive. That, like DVD's, you can write loss-less Blu Ray Data Disks AND you can also create compressed Blu Ray disks that can play HD Video and audio on a consumer Blu Ray Player.
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This is correct. In this capacity, it works just like DVD.

thefilmaddict said:
Am I totally misunderstanding how Blu Ray will work and how it can be used with HVX200 footage??? Will it just be a stand alone HD video player/recorder or will it also be a drive that I can connect to my G5 (via firewire maybe)?
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You're not misunderstanding. :) There are both.

Set-top Blu-Ray HD Video player:
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Computer burnable HD drive:
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thefilmaddict said:
Also, I will be shooting 720 24p footage. Does this flavor of HD work well with Blu Ray or will other steps be involved? Will I have to do pull down? Will it have to be converted to 1080i?
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Blu-Ray works with both 720 and 1080 sources. You can use it for either.

thefilmaddict said:
Thanks for the info. This is all new to me. If Blu Ray works like DVD (Data storage or consumer video disk), I won't buy a back up solution until it comes out. I can just keep everything on my 1 TB sata G raid drive and pray that it doesn't die anytime soon! If I run out of space, I can painfully make DVD Data Disks.
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Works just like DVD, but actually offers a lot more flexibility. There's no question that Blu-Ray will be my media of choice for the next handful of years. Products should be available as early as April, but also be prepared to pay the premium first-round-of-products pricetag.
 
Thanks for the info. It sounds like Blu Ray will be a great archiving and distribution product for us all. Any ideas how much the burner will cost and if it can be connected to current G5's via firewire or USB (I'm out of pci slots)? What about cost per disk? These may be premature questions, but I thought I would ask. Thanks again!
 
I'm hoping it is firewire 400/800/ PCIe or maybe SATA. Would be great to have something by the summer. Apparantly they say they'll be able to have 200 gig versions. I heard that Panasonic is going to be producing some archiving system (25/50 gig) disks and the burner will be around 800. I heard this direct from a Panny guy here in Orlando back in October.

I'd love to see one of these in the next line of macbooks. I'd buy one if they had it. Ability to dump to a laptop all day and then backup 50 gigs and give it to the client is priceless.

What about Divx for HD presentation? That screencaster or viewcaster device? looks really cool, but not for archiving.. but more for presentation
 
I heard about the DivX HD device. It uses current DVD's and displays HD video (the players look like todays DVD players). I think they sell for around $400. How does it fit all of that HD info on a regular DVD? How much video can you get on a DVD? As a HVX200/Final Cut Pro HD owner, how would I get my video onto a DVD that the player could use? Does it have component HD outs to connect to my Sony HD TV?
 
There are some threads about it and I think enough time has passed for you to get some honest reviews. If its close to the HD codecs, it's a pretty good size. I belive on DVDSP it's like 25-30 mbs or such. 3 times SD MPG2 that I do. I can's say for the Divix. I do think that this and the windows media/ quicktime option could be a great potential distribution platform.
 
I forgot to add that PS3 is also Blu-Ray (player, not recorder), but that should help significantly in getting Blu-Ray into people's homes.
 
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